Do you have any questions for us?
11-25-2014 | 02:01 PM
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Anyone who asks these questions or any questions is a DIP$HIT.
Just say "I have found the answers to all of my questions through current employees that are recommending me for this job. Thanks for having me here today, it's been a really pleasurable experience, thank you for having me." -Then smile :-)
Just say "I have found the answers to all of my questions through current employees that are recommending me for this job. Thanks for having me here today, it's been a really pleasurable experience, thank you for having me." -Then smile :-)
11-25-2014 | 02:32 PM
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Jefferson who are you targeting with list the pilots or the recruiters at these places? Seems like even if recruiters are here and actually know this data they will be unlikely to share it candidly on open forums and you'll get a lot of guesses from others.
At any rate it is legitimate to question an employer because shopping for an ideal employer is not only good for the job applicant, it is expected of anyone who plans to do their utmost wherever they go. Before applying is the right time to ask such hard-nosed questions, and that's a two way street because your employer will do the same before they release you to the line. Some regionals have gone from lax to desperate in their acceptance of new recruits with the fallout largely ending up on the rejected trainees who can't cut it in training.
At any rate it is legitimate to question an employer because shopping for an ideal employer is not only good for the job applicant, it is expected of anyone who plans to do their utmost wherever they go. Before applying is the right time to ask such hard-nosed questions, and that's a two way street because your employer will do the same before they release you to the line. Some regionals have gone from lax to desperate in their acceptance of new recruits with the fallout largely ending up on the rejected trainees who can't cut it in training.
11-26-2014 | 04:52 AM
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I may not have come across as intended with this based on the feedback. 20 some years ago when I was getting close ATP there was an opportunity to go fly for EAL as a scab.. I had no idea the connotations... someone advised me why it was a bad idea...
Today's market is not a major airline looking to break a strike... but there are some things that people on the outside of the industry looking to get in may not know to ask about....
I know the recruiters where I work... They would be happy to discuss these thoughts with you outside the interview process with no reservations.... How they would react during an interview I dont know... but again...These are not questions to ask during an interview.
Today's market is not a major airline looking to break a strike... but there are some things that people on the outside of the industry looking to get in may not know to ask about....
I know the recruiters where I work... They would be happy to discuss these thoughts with you outside the interview process with no reservations.... How they would react during an interview I dont know... but again...These are not questions to ask during an interview.
11-26-2014 | 05:09 AM
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1. How many pilots have you hired this year? How many have made it through training?
Busting out of training or making a lateral move take years to overcome if you are heading to a major.
2. Of the pilots that did not complete training, how many left on their own accord?
Anecdotally, one regional is hiring over the phone...but has been unable to get a majority percentage of new hires actually online.
3. Do you limit the number of OE hours/legs you will give a new give a new hire pilot? What is that number?
Some airlines will cut you loose just after minimum hours, some will work with you as long as there is progress... Busting out of OE will add years to your major eligibility.
4. If you dont have an official limit on OE hours, what is the largest OE time investment you have made in an individual pilot?
25 hours in a CRJ can be as few as 12 legs... subtract a few legs for an OE captain to demonstrate and its just not enough for some people to complete OE... Some do great.. some can take as many as 75 hours/60 cycles. If your employer gives up on you after two trips.. where does that leave you?
5. Of the pilots that have made it to the line in the last 24 months, how many have left for non-major employment?
"That place sucked"... how many x"s would that get on your resume during an interview?
6. How many pilots awarded Captain positions with your company dont make it through upgrade training? (plus all the above questions in relation to upgrade)
It happens... 18-24 months in the right seat and 2400 hrs total time is not always enough experience... It is not super common, but it happens.
Go talk to line pilots at your prospective future employer before you accept those phone offers...
Busting out of training or making a lateral move take years to overcome if you are heading to a major.
2. Of the pilots that did not complete training, how many left on their own accord?
Anecdotally, one regional is hiring over the phone...but has been unable to get a majority percentage of new hires actually online.
3. Do you limit the number of OE hours/legs you will give a new give a new hire pilot? What is that number?
Some airlines will cut you loose just after minimum hours, some will work with you as long as there is progress... Busting out of OE will add years to your major eligibility.
4. If you dont have an official limit on OE hours, what is the largest OE time investment you have made in an individual pilot?
25 hours in a CRJ can be as few as 12 legs... subtract a few legs for an OE captain to demonstrate and its just not enough for some people to complete OE... Some do great.. some can take as many as 75 hours/60 cycles. If your employer gives up on you after two trips.. where does that leave you?
5. Of the pilots that have made it to the line in the last 24 months, how many have left for non-major employment?
"That place sucked"... how many x"s would that get on your resume during an interview?
6. How many pilots awarded Captain positions with your company dont make it through upgrade training? (plus all the above questions in relation to upgrade)
It happens... 18-24 months in the right seat and 2400 hrs total time is not always enough experience... It is not super common, but it happens.
Go talk to line pilots at your prospective future employer before you accept those phone offers...
edited for a bit of clarity... I dont intend to challenge "former recruiters" by any means..
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