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Old 12-14-2014, 07:16 AM
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Go where is the shiniest JET ! Lol ! And if they use Hat better ! #koolaiders
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CloudShredder View Post
Typical APC garbage... More crap to have to filter through for the next guy looking... Maybe that's why he posted a new thread. Whenever I go to those individual threads it's like garbage garbage garbage garbage garbage whine whine complain regionals suck whine whine garbage OH-LOOK-A-USEFUL-POST garbage garbage whine complain why-am-I-working-at-a-regional? Complain whine garbage garbage garbage whine complain OH-LOOK-A-USEFUL-POST.....

This thread now looks just like that too. Great job, and I think rickair has a point, information is superfluous and constantly changing...
Also, using big words wrong doesn't make you sound smart.

I have no problem with people asking questions. I've seen many threads that were about choosing between specific regional airlines based on various factors. This thread SCREAMS of laziness. Hey guys, what should I choose. If you had put forth any effort at all, it would be obvious.

Also, I'm not angry. I'm actually really happy. Just because I question your motivation and refuse to play this game doesn't make me miserable. I'm not a recruiter. My job isn't to make you feel happy.
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:23 AM
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No thanks, do your research. There's plenty of info here.
I've done my research, and continue to do so, but my observation stands.
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:25 AM
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Also, using big words wrong doesn't make you sound smart.
I wasn't trying to sound smart... I goofed on that one. I always thought superfluous meant always changing. I can only imagine how many times I have misused that word in the past! Learn something new every day, thanks. If I could go back in time I would've just put the word dynamic in its place.

Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
I have no problem with people asking questions. I've seen many threads that were about choosing between specific regional airlines based on various factors. This thread SCREAMS of laziness. Hey guys, what should I choose. If you had put forth any effort at all, it would be obvious.
Fair enough. I mostly agree with that.
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Old 12-14-2014, 08:20 AM
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Thanks Cloud, I am flexible really on where I go. I am a military brat lived everywhere and have friends spread out so I don't reallly care where I am based. I am more looking for making the right move to get into flying RJs and where the pilots are happy and enjoying things.
I never flew at a regional so I don't have first hand knowledge but I would think the ones that are hiring and have a growth plan would be your best bet. One thing I can say is get in get your time and get out!! I know plenty of guys that have gotten stuck because of QOL and pay.... I can't stand when I hear a 10 year RJ captain say I cant make the leap to delta, united of american because of the pay cut... You will make that up after year one!!
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Old 12-14-2014, 08:29 AM
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Become a WasteManagement garbage truck driver, you will make a living wage, never get furloughed, and you can keep any good stuff you find. You come to this chit show, you will wonder where your life went, just read most of the posts on any aviation site. The new hire posts are rosy with optimistic conjecture, at 5 years they are neutral and after 10 years you get this. Wonder why? Lots of chit to eat, to just hand fly an airplane for 10 minutes after t/o and 10 minutes before landing. No glory, no admiration, just night after night in crappy cheap hotels. Come on board and watch your aviation passion crushed out like the last cigarette in a day drinking bar.
Oh yeah, bring your own drinking water....
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Old 12-14-2014, 08:29 AM
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Skywest. Horizon. Compass. Those are the ones I would look at.
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Old 12-14-2014, 08:45 AM
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1) Great Lakes

3) Comair

4) California Pacific

5) Atlantic Coast Airlines

So wrong!!!

Great Lakes is not a good choice unless you already live there simply because they are limited to the region around the Great Lakes. All other regionals have a much greater operational area of coverage. Plus the 1900 doesn't have a door in the cockpit.

Comair stands a very good chance of being comaired. Sure, people say they're just threats, but why else would it be called being comaired.

I would avoid California Pacific as I don't think they have any planes with with tail mounted engines. Delta (717, MD88, MD90) is unlikely to hire you without at least 500 hours of tail mount time.

Atlantic Coast Airlines? Do you mean Atlantic Southeast? ACA is mainline, not a regional.

I would recommend the OP go to one of these 3:

American Eagle
Delta Connection
United Express
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Old 12-14-2014, 09:19 AM
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You have no friends at Eagle if they say it's the best. It's only second best.
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Old 12-14-2014, 09:28 AM
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When I was in your shoes 8 years ago i had a very smart professor tell me this during a long conversation.

"This is a very funny industry, you are going to have friends that go one place and upgrade very quickly. You will have friends that get furloughed. You will have friends that go to a company that shuts down or in this day gets purchased, merged, torn apart, etc. Go to every interview you can get. Why? Well you don't have any decisions to make until you have an offer in front of you. This also allows you to get a lot of very valuable interviewing experience. So then which one do I choose? The one that offers you a class first. You live and due by your seniority number."

I know some of that conversation is out dated but I believe it has some very valuable lessons for everyone coming into this industry. So my advice, go to as many interviews. Get a feel for each company and make a decision from there.

Here is how I see some of your choices.

PSA - Growing at the expense of other companies. We will see if they actually get all the jets they say they are getting. If I had a dollar for every time I heard "we are getting X amount of jets" I wouldn't be in this business anymore. They have a quick upgrade right now which is good. They have a interview program that has about a 98% success rate. To my knowledge of those successful they move 48 to American per year (4 per month).

Mesa - I don't know a whole lot about them, just their reputation precedes them.

TSA - Growing at the expense of another company. They have a CQFO program that won't do you any good as you will not have the time to be a part of that program. They are owned by ruthless people. Do your Go Jet research and see how that whole thing worked out for TSA.

Compass - Griwing from pure growth, not taking any airplanes that are at other companies. They have many pilots that are flowing to Delta creating guaranteed movement. Once that is over well that is the wild card as to what happens as far as upgrades. The company is good, the people are good and there is a lot of 121 experience there. That meaning most if the pilots there compass wasn't their first rodeo.

Endeavor - Shrinking to a point then what? Who knows what is going to happen there once they get down to 81 900s. What is known about them is they have the most movement to Delta than any other carrier in the world. They will send 144 guys to Delta next year and those numbers keep going up in the following years. They just signed a deal making them the highest paid first two years in the industry. They have a fantastic training department, regarded as one of the best in the industry. If they can hire I would say the sky is the limit and you can expect not to be an FO after year two. Most of the bad press Endeavor gets is from former employees that just relay information from their negative friends here.

With all that being said, there are a lot of choices out there. Take what you read with a grain of salt. Again take as many interviews as you gan get and go get a real feel for the company when you are there. When you are traveling to the interview ask their employees questions and really get the temperature of the employee group.

Good luck with your career. It is an exciting time to be joining this profession.
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