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Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace
(Post 1790720)
lol, PSA doesn't have flow. Neither does #5-9
Serious list, 1- Piedmont 2- Envoy 3- Compass I'm not just saying Piedmont is the best because I work at Piedmont. I have language for both Envoy and Piedmont and PDT's is far superior and is consistent for all pilots on the seniority list. Medical coverage is gapped and you are put on LOA at PDT till completion of training at AA. Also you can bypass for as long as you want and the flow accelerates by 1 for every 125 pilots above 350 (we will be adding 1 more in the near future). PDT ENY That's it. PSA doesn't need flow. Their SSP hires virtually everyone that interviews and I doubt they'd want to sell something for the flow... Though PSA may just offer their SSP just because. |
PSA will have a flow here shortly, they have to renegotiate our career progression agreement once us and Aa get a single operating certificate which is supposedly happening here soon.
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But that being said right now I would say envoy has a pretty good flow through program going on
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Flows will probably be the next norm. AA is smart to be in the forefront with their flow language. They'll get more guys to show up for their regional feed. It's a no brainer.
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If AAG hires 150/month, how many of those 150 will be flows from envoy/pdt?
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There are some good flow trails in Santa Cruz these days. Also, I recommend checking out Winter Park in the summer time, they really have invested a lot into their flow trails.
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Progressive.
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Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX
(Post 1790738)
Excellent points about the Piedmont flow, much better language and better benefits in our letter.
PDT ENY That's it. PSA doesn't need flow. Their SSP hires virtually everyone that interviews and I doubt they'd want to sell something for the flow... Though PSA may just offer their SSP just because. Envoy's new TA guarantees 50% of each newhire AA class and minimum of 30 a month for pilots hired up to October 11th. Pilots hired after October 11th are guaranteed 35% of each AA class at a minimum of 15 a month. Pilots hired after date of signing get 25% of each AA class. So again, even with PDT flowing 5 that is still less than Envoy. But as far as flows in the Regionals that is it: Envoy Piedmont |
Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX
(Post 1790738)
Excellent points about the Piedmont flow, much better language and better benefits in our letter.
PDT ENY That's it. PSA doesn't need flow. Their SSP hires virtually everyone that interviews and I doubt they'd want to sell something for the flow... Though PSA may just offer their SSP just because. Envoy's new TA guarantees 50% of each newhire AA class and minimum of 30 a month for pilots hired up to October 11th. Pilots hired after October 11th are guaranteed 35% of each AA class at a minimum of 15 a month. Pilots hired after date of signing get 25% of each AA class. So again, even with PDT flowing 5 that is still less than Envoy. But as far as flows in the Regionals that is it: Envoy Piedmont PSA does not even have a flow at this point so does not belong in the discussion. |
Originally Posted by Skyvector
(Post 1790790)
Honest question, but what in your opinion makes PDT's flow so much better than Envoy's? Envoy's flow is much more robust and enhanced. If I remember correctly PDT flows 5 a month, is that correct?
Envoy's new TA guarantees 50% of each newhire AA class and minimum of 30 a month for pilots hired up to October 11th. Pilots hired after October 11th are guaranteed 35% of each AA class at a minimum of 15 a month. Pilots hired after date of signing get 25% of each AA class. So again, even with PDT flowing 5 that is still less than Envoy. But as far as flows in the Regionals that is it: Envoy Piedmont PDT have 3 a month. PSA 4 interviews a month Envoy - 20 - 30 to AA for 824. Protected 25 and when the 1st 175 option arrive goes to 30. After protected is 15. After day of signing is 5 and depending on how many pilots we have on property goes up. |
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