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billyho 01-08-2015 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by HappyCrew (Post 1798883)
Whats the current upgrade time over there???? I heard most of the people leaving are FO's...

I think any FO's that are Typed on the 175 will be better off jumping ship to Compass, Mesa or Envoy once they start getting there 175s.

LAXSAAB 01-08-2015 11:10 AM

Feb 2008 is the junior captain. I would not go to republic for a fast upgrade. It's been seven years since the 18 month upgrades. Maybe it goes down to five years, but that place has many that will retire from RAH. Very senior pilot group. Several senior FOs quit in the last year. I know a few who were within months of upgrade.

thump 01-08-2015 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by HappyCrew (Post 1798883)
Whats the current upgrade time over there???? I heard most of the people leaving are FO's...


Most junior CA is spring '08 hire. Junior on the E170 is fall '07. So right around 6-7 years. With that said, there was not much hiring between fall '08 and '11, so things will normalize around 4 years IMHO

DSRoss996 01-09-2015 03:01 PM

Just got a negotiations update from our union. After finishing the 15th six hour negotiation session, they have reached TA status on 3 of the 25 articles. Those 3 articles that have been TA'd are seniority, check airmen, and uniforms. There is no way we will be getting a new contract anytime soon.

gatorbuc99 01-09-2015 04:22 PM

Seniority...for what? future potential mergers? how would that jive w/ ALPA merger policy if an ALPA carrier merger came about?

sqwkvfr 01-10-2015 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by gatorbuc99 (Post 1799917)
Seniority...for what? future potential mergers? how would that jive w/ ALPA merger policy if an ALPA carrier merger came about?

Every section of the contract is being negotiated and requires a tentative agreement.

I'm also curious about the relevance of your question....when is the last time you've heard of ALPA's "gold standard" merger policy actually being followed?

Rahlifer 01-10-2015 09:20 AM

The company recruiters will tell prospective pilots just about anything to get the fresh meat in the door. There is absolutely no chance of any contract being ratified within the next couple years. The incredibly effective Teamsters have managed to secure agreements about important items such as what color buttons my uniform blazer shall have or what the company's responsibility is should I be kidnapped by Canadian ninjas.

For those poor souls that do find themselves out on the line here, just understand that for all intents and purposes, we are a non-Union carrier. Sure, we pay protection money every month to the IBT in exchange for a mighty fine trucker magazine. That's it. Nothing else. Period. Our incredibly weak and outdated CBA is violated and re-interpreted on a daily basis.

We have absolutely no pay protection whatsoever so plan on min guarantee regardless of what you're awarded. Everyone is on reserve and subject to reschedule at any time for any reason. Two hour FDP extensions are MANDATORY. The only way to not accept it is to call in sick or fatigued, both of which subject you to disciplinary action.

If that kinda stuff sounds like a good time, then come on over. Just be sure that you can live on $36.62 for a minimum of 5-8 years. That's the realistic minimum upgrade time and the permanent cap on FO pay rates. No matter what the recruiters tell you. We are parking airplanes just to staff current flying. Who knows how they're planning on staffing those shiny new RJ's on order. Our top brass made some pretty arrogant assumptions that some other regionals would fail soon and open the floodgates with desperate pilots looking for someplace to land. Oops.

Geardownflaps30 01-10-2015 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Rahlifer (Post 1800343)
The company recruiters will tell prospective pilots just about anything to get the fresh meat in the door. There is absolutely no chance of any contract being ratified within the next couple years. The incredibly effective Teamsters have managed to secure agreements about important items such as what color buttons my uniform blazer shall have or what the company's responsibility is should I be kidnapped by Canadian ninjas.

For those poor souls that do find themselves out on the line here, just understand that for all intents and purposes, we are a non-Union carrier. Sure, we pay protection money every month to the IBT in exchange for a mighty fine trucker magazine. That's it. Nothing else. Period. Our incredibly weak and outdated CBA is violated and re-interpreted on a daily basis.

We have absolutely no pay protection whatsoever so plan on min guarantee regardless of what you're awarded. Everyone is on reserve and subject to reschedule at any time for any reason. Two hour FDP extensions are MANDATORY. The only way to not accept it is to call in sick or fatigued, both of which subject you to disciplinary action.

If that kinda stuff sounds like a good time, then come on over. Just be sure that you can live on $36.62 for a minimum of 5-8 years. That's the realistic minimum upgrade time and the permanent cap on FO pay rates. No matter what the recruiters tell you. We are parking airplanes just to staff current flying. Who knows how they're planning on staffing those shiny new RJ's on order. Our top brass made some pretty arrogant assumptions that some other regionals would fail soon and open the floodgates with desperate pilots looking for someplace to land. Oops.

Much of this reply is correct except about credit and pay. In spite of trying to work less, I've never flown less than 83 hrs in a month and usually average in the low 90's...

This place is somewhat of a sweatshop. You will work and credit a lot unless you play games.

I dream of a min guarantee month ... Even if I'm just sitting in a hotel!!

Been here two years and have blocked over 1700 hrs in that time. Credit was even higher. Great if you're looking to build time.

Many other aspects s*ck tho...

thump 01-10-2015 04:40 PM

RAH new contract?
 

Originally Posted by gatorbuc99 (Post 1799917)
Seniority...for what? future potential mergers? how would that jive w/ ALPA merger policy if an ALPA carrier merger came about?


Can't give you an official answer, but it was not followed when we merged with Midwest, which was an ALPA carrier.

Systemized 01-10-2015 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 (Post 1800569)
Much of this reply is correct except about credit and pay. In spite of trying to work less, I've never flown less than 83 hrs in a month and usually average in the low 90's...

This place is somewhat of a sweatshop. You will work and credit a lot unless you play games.

I dream of a min guarantee month ... Even if I'm just sitting in a hotel!!

Been here two years and have blocked over 1700 hrs in that time. Credit was even higher. Great if you're looking to build time.

Many other aspects s*ck tho...

How do you credit more than block when you have no work rules?


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