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Old 01-06-2015, 08:40 AM
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I recently got a call from an RAH recruiter, When I asked about the status of the negotiations I was told that is was "almost" done and great things were about to happen as they are renegotiating the entire contract. They were excited to tell me that the 2 year commitment was off the table until the end of February.
Please understand, I'm aware of the kool-aid they were offering, I'm just curious and looking for clarification.
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:44 AM
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What 2 year commitment? The one if you take the money? So you are saying right now they are offering the money with no commitment? Hmmmm tempting. So Tempting.
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Old 01-06-2015, 09:03 AM
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What 2 year commitment? The one if you take the money? So you are saying right now they are offering the money with no commitment? Hmmmm tempting. So Tempting.
The way they explained it to me was if you took a class before March, there was NO 2 year commitment. There is a sign on bonus dpending on the fleet type you choose, 10k for 145's (with the expectation that you will be back in training in about 1-1.5 years for the 175) and 7.5k for the 175's. pro rated if you leave before 1 year.
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Old 01-06-2015, 09:19 AM
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I recently got a call from an RAH recruiter, When I asked about the status of the negotiations I was told that is was "almost" done and great things were about to happen as they are renegotiating the entire contract. They were excited to tell me that the 2 year commitment was off the table until the end of February.
Please understand, I'm aware of the kool-aid they were offering, I'm just curious and looking for clarification.
Gonna be a while. Only 2 out of 25ish articles are ta'd. Our current nc won't agree to junk like the teamsters airline division did. Only time will tell if the company is going to play ball. My guess is the whole thing will grind to a halt when we start to get into some real articles. Also don't believe anything a recruiter says. The contract was "almost" done when I was hired years ago.
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by oldnewguy View Post
I recently got a call from an RAH recruiter, When I asked about the status of the negotiations I was told that is was "almost" done and great things were about to happen as they are renegotiating the entire contract. They were excited to tell me that the 2 year commitment was off the table until the end of February.
Please understand, I'm aware of the kool-aid they were offering, I'm just curious and looking for clarification.
Id tell them to call back when its done and "great things" start happening.
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:38 AM
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I don't know anything about the training contract or bonus commitment but I can tell you we are NOWHERE near a new CBA.

I doubt we'll see one this year at all.
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Old 01-06-2015, 11:48 AM
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The only reason why management would play ball later in negotiations is to try and solve the HUGE staffing problem we have here.
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Old 01-06-2015, 03:54 PM
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I don't know anything about the training contract or bonus commitment but I can tell you we are NOWHERE near a new CBA.

I doubt we'll see one this year at all.
I think I agree with you though I asked FL on the committee if he expects a TA outside of 6 months and he thought well within 6 months. The company is scrambling. I won't believe it until we have something to vote on.
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Old 01-06-2015, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by oldnewguy View Post
I recently got a call from an RAH recruiter, When I asked about the status of the negotiations I was told that is was "almost" done and great things were about to happen as they are renegotiating the entire contract. They were excited to tell me that the 2 year commitment was off the table until the end of February.
Please understand, I'm aware of the kool-aid they were offering, I'm just curious and looking for clarification.
It's much cheaper to get asses in the seats by lying to prospective new hires than it is to play ball with your pilot group......and a management team that has become so accustomed to lying to everyone with which it deals (including congress) will have absolutely no qualms about lying to you.

Do not be fooled.
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Old 01-06-2015, 06:54 PM
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I'm still in a very optimistic state of mind here in my young naive pre-airline days, but I can definitely attest to the fact that recruiters will paint a picture rosier than things really are to get you to come work for them. Envoy was touting the fact that they were getting E-175s since late 2013... They're not wrong (now...), but they said things as a very matter a fact that the TA would get passed as each one was presented.

Don't go to a company based on what is SUPPOSED to be. Go based on what IS, and what works best for YOU.
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