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Old 01-15-2015 | 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SenecaII
To the OP. You better listen to Silly Ho on this one. He/She is actually right this time. NOW if RAH would have voted down all 3 of those contracts ( and they would have ) what's that tell you about us getting a contract ratified anytime soon.....hmmmmm.


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Actually I don't even think you guys will get a contract as good as our. That window has past.
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Old 01-15-2015 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CaribbeanFLYR
Hey everyone just got an inteview with RAH in two weeks. I haven't heard much optimism about RAH in a while, so my question: Is it even worth doing the inteview? Any insight is appreciated...

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Old 01-15-2015 | 06:54 AM
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When the 2003 contract was ratified, it was the best we could get. There were no 170s or 190s. We didn't know about them but Bedford sure did and took advantage of it at every opportunity.

I flew with a brand new first officer right off IOE last week, and I was straight forward with him. I said, get in here, get your time, and get out as quick as you possibly can.
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Old 01-15-2015 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot

I flew with a brand new first officer right off IOE last week, and I was straight forward with him. I said, get in here, get your time, and get out as quick as you possibly can.
Isn't that every regionsl airline???
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Old 01-15-2015 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
Isn't that every regionsl airline???
It's especially important at a fast sinking ship like RAH. Most people hired here will never see the left seat before we shut down.
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Old 01-15-2015 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rahlifer
It's especially important at a fast sinking ship like RAH. Most people hired here will never see the left seat before we shut down.
In that case tell them to leave ASAP.
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Old 01-15-2015 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
In that case tell them to leave ASAP.
They have 2 years commitments.
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Old 01-15-2015 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
Actually I don't even think you guys will get a contract as good as our. That window has past.

And I would have thought your remarkable, superior pilot group would have learned from our 2003 mistake. Interested in how that cap is gonna work out when you get 145s. Lather rinse repeat.....


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Old 01-15-2015 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Rahlifer
It's especially important at a fast sinking ship like RAH. Most people hired here will never see the left seat before we shut down.
Curious as to how RAH is a "fast sinking ship"?
I thought they were the 4th most profitable airline, other than the apparently less than favorable practices in how they treat the pilot group, what would be the indicator that they are sinking?
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Old 01-15-2015 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SenecaII
And I would have thought your remarkable, superior pilot group would have learned from our 2003 mistake. Interested in how that cap is gonna work out when you get 145s. Lather rinse repeat.....


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Your mistake was your own. Like ho said our contract, even with that LOA is better than anything you would have gotten. Get our work rules/vacation and Envoy's pay rates and your new deal would be great compared to what you have now and across the board better than most other regionals. If the wholly owned carriers are holding you down the above shouldn't be difficult to achieve.
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