C series orders... Someone from RAH can probably shed more light on this

 

We are not committed in that way. Expect those orders to be sold or cancelled. After the failed F9 experiment, there's no way Wall Street will tolerate another branded experiment.

 

I didn't think they could be canceled without substantial financial penalty...

 

I thought they would be sold or cancelled also. Then I saw the failed TA did not have pay rates for the c series then I became convinced we will see them. If we aren't getting them then they could have put 747 pay rates in that column and tried to buy some votes. Instead they tried to sneak in the 76+ seat pay rate.

My guess is hub yo hub feed for a foreign carrier in United States. Or Allegiant or Alaska (no scope).

 

The only way we can staff our current flying is by parking airplanes. Hiring is not covering current attrition. We've got some shiny new airplanes on order with no one to fly them. The company is throwing all sorts of bonus money around to try and get people in the door while doing absolutely nothing to stem the flow of pilots leaving. Our mainline partners, especially Delta, don't take too kindly to their servants that are unable to meet their contractual commitments. We are rapidly approaching a point were we will inevitably lose some contracts.

Our executives are rapidly selling off their shares as quickly as legally allowed. The future here does not appear as bright and rosey as the recruiters try to make it seem. The company response to try and improve morale around here was to hire a consulting firm to come up with little parties and cost-neutral trinket giveaways to look like they care. We even created a new executive position to oversee the culture change. Yup. Another well paid executive to show us how it's done. Meanwhile, we continue to operate under a twelve year old contract with absolutely no chance of seeing any worthwhile TA in the foreseeable future. FO pay rates are permanently capped at $36.62 with anywhere from a 7-10 year upgrade.

 

Still less money than another branded exercise. I don't recall the exactly tally, but we lost several hundred million in the F9/Midwest experiment. I contend that we do not have the capital/debt capacity to start a branded operation. We are profitable, but starting a new airline, with a new type, with all the costs of a startup; not going to happen. That's our reality.

 

I agree with you, I was suggesting the hit from not taking those planes have potential to damage rah

 

Holy crap. Your cap FO pay is equal to second year FO pay at TSA. How could you not be profitable? Is upgrade really 7-10 years? I mean how are FOs not quitting in droves?

I had no idea.

 

I never said the company wasn't profitable. We're just barely keeping the operation together. But the suits are very well compensated. Countless cancellations and re assignments are the norm for flight crews.

Upgrades can only happen when expensive old farts like me leave, or we expand the fleet. I don't have the exact numbers, but I believe we are currently parking more planes than we are bringing on line. So we really do have a very lengthy upgrade time at the moment. FOs are leaving in very large numbers. Many are starting over at other regionals, but quite a few are getting called up to the majors as well.

 

Surprisingly, we arent shrinking at all......yet. Upgrade right now is far more dependent on the ability to find new hires. The company has a desperate need for captains, but upgrades will continue to be slow as long as we arent getting any new hires. I know Bedford is turning away more than one airline asking for additional planes. He'd rather park planes and deny additional growth than pay his employees a livable wage. Very sad.