Originally Posted by sarahswhere (Post 1874849)

Much better explanation. There are three females in my class of 24 new hires, so that's roughly 10%. I don't know about other classes. I also don't know what the current percentage is in company but that's irrelevant anyways. Why should the current percentage stay the same? Perhaps more females are interested in getting hired as time goes on.

Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1874862)

I believe in merit based hiring. I also don't care if females are being hired at slightly faster rates to encourage growth by females in the industry. On the other hand, I don't think a female should get hired solely because she is a female independent of all other factors (experience, performance, etc).

By the way, the department of labor says that females make up 6% of the pilot labor force.

Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 1872864)

Are you kidding me? Outside of the, obvious females, I know of plenty of senior FO's with no prior TPIC (non minority btw) and CAs with, if I had to guess, 4-5k PIC leaving where I am at.

I know, personally, anyone over 10k TT is a huge negative to United (at the moment). A good CA, who I fly with regularly, was told this directly at a job fair recently. This is absolutely moronic considering all of these guys who were stuck at regionals at no fault of their own. Of course this being held as a negative, according to the algorithm all the legacies use (which is beyond stupid) will change at some point, but for the time being anyone with a crap load of time is at a disadvantage.

From everything I gather is if you have 7-10 internal LORs, between 5-7k TT and maybe a few hundred to 1500+ TPIC your chances are pretty decent your phone is going to be ringing. I read the United thread a lot (my number 1 choice) and it sounds like job fairs, while good, don't really help you in earning points per the algorithm they use.

I truly don't get it. Leave it to HR people who never deal with pilots to come up with a bunch of stupid idiotic BS to determine who is actually worthy of an interview. Why in the hell can we not go back to the days of "Hey Chief, heres a guys resume who is, safe, professional, works well with others and would be a great asset to XXX airline" is beyond me. Stop being so damn scared of discrimination lawsuits. Good lord.

Hang in there. Eventually the numbers equal out to everyone getting a job sooner than later.