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HighxFlight 05-02-2015 07:34 PM

Regionals to Majors movement
 
I am currently not employed by 121 airline. I don't have first hand knowledge about the movement from the regionals to the majors. My question is for current/recent regional pilots.

Question: Are you actually seeing your friends/co-workers being hired on by the majors? If so, generally what do their resumes look like (in terms of hours, ect..)

Realtalk 05-02-2015 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1872825)
You want the truth?

Mildly qualified FO Females who have a terrible reputation.

Or

Male CA's with about 3 zillion hours of 121 PIC who work at the soup kitchen on his days off and have been to every job fair within 3,000 miles for the past 24 months.

Bro fist- for the truth brother.

TheGoldenJet 05-02-2015 09:28 PM

Facebiter is a highly qualified female FO with a good reputation.

hijo 05-02-2015 09:39 PM

Legacies: Captains with thousands of 121 PIC hours or well qualifed minority FO's.

LLC: Experienced FO's

Regionals: Anyone with a pulse and the minimums.

CAirBear 05-02-2015 10:36 PM

Are you kidding me? Outside of the, obvious females, I know of plenty of senior FO's with no prior TPIC (non minority btw) and CAs with, if I had to guess, 4-5k PIC leaving where I am at.

I know, personally, anyone over 10k TT is a huge negative to United (at the moment). A good CA, who I fly with regularly, was told this directly at a job fair recently. This is absolutely moronic considering all of these guys who were stuck at regionals at no fault of their own. Of course this being held as a negative, according to the algorithm all the legacies use (which is beyond stupid) will change at some point, but for the time being anyone with a crap load of time is at a disadvantage.

From everything I gather is if you have 7-10 internal LORs, between 5-7k TT and maybe a few hundred to 1500+ TPIC your chances are pretty decent your phone is going to be ringing. I read the United thread a lot (my number 1 choice) and it sounds like job fairs, while good, don't really help you in earning points per the algorithm they use.

I truly don't get it. Leave it to HR people who never deal with pilots to come up with a bunch of stupid idiotic BS to determine who is actually worthy of an interview. Why in the hell can we not go back to the days of "Hey Chief, heres a guys resume who is, safe, professional, works well with others and would be a great asset to XXX airline" is beyond me. Stop being so damn scared of discrimination lawsuits. Good lord.

Hang in there. Eventually the numbers equal out to everyone getting a job sooner than later.

deltajuliet 05-02-2015 11:03 PM

I know a few Expressjet FO's with 2-3 years' experience who just got on with Allegiant. Not a huge jump but it's something.

As for females and minorities, why is that? Do airlines have some legal quota they have to meet? Who enforces it? If not, why do they do it?

deltajuliet 05-02-2015 11:51 PM

Females make up 50% of the population, but significantly less of the pilot workforce. Probably <5%. Do these "discrimination" laws not consider that glaring discrepancy? I figure the amount of females hired only for their gender is negligible, so I'm not losing sleep over it, but if there is such a regulatory policy it ought to factor in the preexisting demographical makeup of a particular career field.


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