Dear PSAJOBS
05-18-2015 | 06:54 AM
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Dear PSAJOBS
Dear PSAJOBS,
In order to assist you in your recruiting efforts I have highlighted some major issues facing current and future PSA pilots in which your clarification may ultimately help the decision making process for qualified professional pilots looking for employment.
Pay Discrepancy Reports:
For all of you unfamiliar with PSA payroll, this is used to bring attention to the fact that you have not been paid properly (paid LESS than you are owed). If you come to PSA, be prepared to spend significant time auditing your paycheck because the company will consistently pay you less than what you are rightfully owed. Any pilot who has been here for some time has filled out countless discrepancy reports. So please explain to me why a company that has been around for a few decades cannot properly pay its pilots? This isn't a once or twice per year type of thing, this issue happens on a regular basis. The best part is, once you catch a mistake and file the report the company will usually acknowledge that they shorted your pay and agree to correct it, however when you check back a few days later you will notice nothing has been corrected. So you get the enjoyment of filing another report for the same issue. If this sounds like a fun way to spend your days off, come to PSA. For those of you who think a quick glance at a paycheck is not a big deal, the payroll system is such a disaster it does not allow for a quick review. You will need to cross check 4 different sources that are available at completely different times of the month in order to ensure you were paid correctly. The paycheck does not display the number of hours you are being paid for, it's simply a dollar amount. I have helped several new hire pilots check their pay and most of them were missing hundreds of dollars in per diem, and they had only been flying the line for a couple of months. How much of your personal time are you willing to dedicate to payroll accounting?
Training:
I've heard from multiple sources the Captain upgrade fail rate is now at 50%. A quick upgrade is a great thing to chase after, however explaining in an interview why you busted a 121 upgrade ride would be unfortunate. I have also heard multiple rumors that some new hire pilots who wash out of training are being offered jobs as ground instructors. Do you want to come here and put your training record on the line?
SSP:
If you get hired at PSA right now you may have a 20 year wait until you will interview at AA. We are currently in talks to increase our preferential interview numbers with management. However, as the LOA was written, the company has complete discretion on whether the number is increased at all. We currently have rights to 48 slots per year assuming AA is hiring every month of the year. Let's say they revise the SSP and take 100 a year (I highly doubt they will). If you are hired as pilot 1200 on our list you may have 11 years to wait (assuming the top 100 have bypassed). Any new hire will presently have +1000 pilots on property with rights to AA before them. If you want to fly for AA do you think you could make it there faster by going to another regional?
These issues should be important to pilots considering employment at any regional airline, so I ask PSAJOBS to address these concerns in order to provide a clear picture of the current environment at PSA.
In order to assist you in your recruiting efforts I have highlighted some major issues facing current and future PSA pilots in which your clarification may ultimately help the decision making process for qualified professional pilots looking for employment.
Pay Discrepancy Reports:
For all of you unfamiliar with PSA payroll, this is used to bring attention to the fact that you have not been paid properly (paid LESS than you are owed). If you come to PSA, be prepared to spend significant time auditing your paycheck because the company will consistently pay you less than what you are rightfully owed. Any pilot who has been here for some time has filled out countless discrepancy reports. So please explain to me why a company that has been around for a few decades cannot properly pay its pilots? This isn't a once or twice per year type of thing, this issue happens on a regular basis. The best part is, once you catch a mistake and file the report the company will usually acknowledge that they shorted your pay and agree to correct it, however when you check back a few days later you will notice nothing has been corrected. So you get the enjoyment of filing another report for the same issue. If this sounds like a fun way to spend your days off, come to PSA. For those of you who think a quick glance at a paycheck is not a big deal, the payroll system is such a disaster it does not allow for a quick review. You will need to cross check 4 different sources that are available at completely different times of the month in order to ensure you were paid correctly. The paycheck does not display the number of hours you are being paid for, it's simply a dollar amount. I have helped several new hire pilots check their pay and most of them were missing hundreds of dollars in per diem, and they had only been flying the line for a couple of months. How much of your personal time are you willing to dedicate to payroll accounting?
Training:
I've heard from multiple sources the Captain upgrade fail rate is now at 50%. A quick upgrade is a great thing to chase after, however explaining in an interview why you busted a 121 upgrade ride would be unfortunate. I have also heard multiple rumors that some new hire pilots who wash out of training are being offered jobs as ground instructors. Do you want to come here and put your training record on the line?
SSP:
If you get hired at PSA right now you may have a 20 year wait until you will interview at AA. We are currently in talks to increase our preferential interview numbers with management. However, as the LOA was written, the company has complete discretion on whether the number is increased at all. We currently have rights to 48 slots per year assuming AA is hiring every month of the year. Let's say they revise the SSP and take 100 a year (I highly doubt they will). If you are hired as pilot 1200 on our list you may have 11 years to wait (assuming the top 100 have bypassed). Any new hire will presently have +1000 pilots on property with rights to AA before them. If you want to fly for AA do you think you could make it there faster by going to another regional?
These issues should be important to pilots considering employment at any regional airline, so I ask PSAJOBS to address these concerns in order to provide a clear picture of the current environment at PSA.
05-18-2015 | 07:00 AM
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It really appears that the recent actions of the PSA MEC, working in collusion with AAG management to whipsaw Envoy, has finally woken up a bunch of sleeping dragons.
Great info finally coming out about this company. I hope prospective pilots read and heed this great advice that's been posted around. Do you really want to be part of this? Do you really want this following you for the rest of you career?
Finally, remember, chasing upgrade is like a hot stock tip. Once you hear about it, it's already too late.
Great info finally coming out about this company. I hope prospective pilots read and heed this great advice that's been posted around. Do you really want to be part of this? Do you really want this following you for the rest of you career?
Finally, remember, chasing upgrade is like a hot stock tip. Once you hear about it, it's already too late.
05-18-2015 | 07:30 AM
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Dear PSAJOBS,
In order to assist you in your recruiting efforts I have highlighted some major issues facing current and future PSA pilots in which your clarification may ultimately help the decision making process for qualified professional pilots looking for employment.
Pay Discrepancy Reports:
For all of you unfamiliar with PSA payroll, this is used to bring attention to the fact that you have not been paid properly (paid LESS than you are owed). If you come to PSA, be prepared to spend significant time auditing your paycheck because the company will consistently pay you less than what you are rightfully owed. Any pilot who has been here for some time has filled out countless discrepancy reports. So please explain to me why a company that has been around for a few decades cannot properly pay its pilots? This isn't a once or twice per year type of thing, this issue happens on a regular basis. The best part is, once you catch a mistake and file the report the company will usually acknowledge that they shorted your pay and agree to correct it, however when you check back a few days later you will notice nothing has been corrected. So you get the enjoyment of filing another report for the same issue. If this sounds like a fun way to spend your days off, come to PSA. For those of you who think a quick glance at a paycheck is not a big deal, the payroll system is such a disaster it does not allow for a quick review. You will need to cross check 4 different sources that are available at completely different times of the month in order to ensure you were paid correctly. The paycheck does not display the number of hours you are being paid for, it's simply a dollar amount. I have helped several new hire pilots check their pay and most of them were missing hundreds of dollars in per diem, and they had only been flying the line for a couple of months. How much of your personal time are you willing to dedicate to payroll accounting?
Training:
I've heard from multiple sources the Captain upgrade fail rate is now at 50%. A quick upgrade is a great thing to chase after, however explaining in an interview why you busted a 121 upgrade ride would be unfortunate. I have also heard multiple rumors that some new hire pilots who wash out of training are being offered jobs as ground instructors. Do you want to come here and put your training record on the line?
SSP:
If you get hired at PSA right now you may have a 20 year wait until you will interview at AA. We are currently in talks to increase our preferential interview numbers with management. However, as the LOA was written, the company has complete discretion on whether the number is increased at all. We currently have rights to 48 slots per year assuming AA is hiring every month of the year. Let's say they revise the SSP and take 100 a year (I highly doubt they will). If you are hired as pilot 1200 on our list you may have 11 years to wait (assuming the top 100 have bypassed). Any new hire will presently have +1000 pilots on property with rights to AA before them. If you want to fly for AA do you think you could make it there faster by going to another regional?
These issues should be important to pilots considering employment at any regional airline, so I ask PSAJOBS to address these concerns in order to provide a clear picture of the current environment at PSA.
In order to assist you in your recruiting efforts I have highlighted some major issues facing current and future PSA pilots in which your clarification may ultimately help the decision making process for qualified professional pilots looking for employment.
Pay Discrepancy Reports:
For all of you unfamiliar with PSA payroll, this is used to bring attention to the fact that you have not been paid properly (paid LESS than you are owed). If you come to PSA, be prepared to spend significant time auditing your paycheck because the company will consistently pay you less than what you are rightfully owed. Any pilot who has been here for some time has filled out countless discrepancy reports. So please explain to me why a company that has been around for a few decades cannot properly pay its pilots? This isn't a once or twice per year type of thing, this issue happens on a regular basis. The best part is, once you catch a mistake and file the report the company will usually acknowledge that they shorted your pay and agree to correct it, however when you check back a few days later you will notice nothing has been corrected. So you get the enjoyment of filing another report for the same issue. If this sounds like a fun way to spend your days off, come to PSA. For those of you who think a quick glance at a paycheck is not a big deal, the payroll system is such a disaster it does not allow for a quick review. You will need to cross check 4 different sources that are available at completely different times of the month in order to ensure you were paid correctly. The paycheck does not display the number of hours you are being paid for, it's simply a dollar amount. I have helped several new hire pilots check their pay and most of them were missing hundreds of dollars in per diem, and they had only been flying the line for a couple of months. How much of your personal time are you willing to dedicate to payroll accounting?
Training:
I've heard from multiple sources the Captain upgrade fail rate is now at 50%. A quick upgrade is a great thing to chase after, however explaining in an interview why you busted a 121 upgrade ride would be unfortunate. I have also heard multiple rumors that some new hire pilots who wash out of training are being offered jobs as ground instructors. Do you want to come here and put your training record on the line?
SSP:
If you get hired at PSA right now you may have a 20 year wait until you will interview at AA. We are currently in talks to increase our preferential interview numbers with management. However, as the LOA was written, the company has complete discretion on whether the number is increased at all. We currently have rights to 48 slots per year assuming AA is hiring every month of the year. Let's say they revise the SSP and take 100 a year (I highly doubt they will). If you are hired as pilot 1200 on our list you may have 11 years to wait (assuming the top 100 have bypassed). Any new hire will presently have +1000 pilots on property with rights to AA before them. If you want to fly for AA do you think you could make it there faster by going to another regional?
These issues should be important to pilots considering employment at any regional airline, so I ask PSAJOBS to address these concerns in order to provide a clear picture of the current environment at PSA.
05-18-2015 | 07:55 AM
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The OP posted some valid points.
Thank goodness we have a horrible contract where I have 16 days off next month with most weekends off!
But yea the pay discrepancy is annoying. And if you come here thinking you'll work for AA, I say good luck.
Upgrade training isn't a freebie. Hope that isn't news flash to folks. Even some that did pass, should've flew couple more hundred hours if you've never flown crjs before. But that's my personal opinion.
Thank goodness we have a horrible contract where I have 16 days off next month with most weekends off!
But yea the pay discrepancy is annoying. And if you come here thinking you'll work for AA, I say good luck.
Upgrade training isn't a freebie. Hope that isn't news flash to folks. Even some that did pass, should've flew couple more hundred hours if you've never flown crjs before. But that's my personal opinion.
05-18-2015 | 07:59 AM
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He isn't a recruiter. Pretty sure he is a CP or some sort of management, as several PSA pilots have called him such, but he hasn't owned up to it. Recently, he made a rather distasteful shot at a PSA pilot on here, and was called out by another PSA pilot for it not only being distasteful, but coming from managent, even worse. He didn't post for a while.
He/she started off very professionally answering any PSA related questions. Then the vultures came and attacked this person for no reason and the basic instinct kicked in. Can't say I blame PSAJOBS because many of the APC members are a piece of work. 20 years ago I would've taken them to a dark alley and beat the living crap out of them. Be thankful I met Jesus.
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