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Old 06-18-2015, 05:19 PM
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I went to UND and I know alot of people that did the Expressjet pathway thing, I would say almost all of them went to a different company and I would suggest the same. Dont look at it like they are your only option. What you are told at school and how things really operate are two different realities. I was told many fibs and overstatements about getting into the industry and what it will take to get here. The fact of the matter that XJT isnt doing so well has been no secret for a while now. 3 years ago they were a very good company now they are a sinking ship. tl;dr Dont get hooked into alot of these college programs, its just like signing up for the military, alot of empty promises
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Old 06-18-2015, 06:08 PM
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Hey Longlanding

The most important thing right now is to find a flying job you can tolerate until you get picked up by the major of your choice. Also, nobody on this thread can predict what will happen to ExpressJet. I have been in this industry for 15+ years, and the only wisdom I can pass on is that this industry, especially the FFD sector, does not seem to follow logic. You will not know if you have made the right choice until several years later. Commuting, especially on reserve, is awful in the FFD industry. Pick a place where you can live in base and try to save money on cost of living. The next few months will probably give a hint of the future of XJT. Just relax and realize that the general direction of the pilot profession is probably on the upswing for the next 15 years (but I only state that with 70% certainty).
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I am 100% willing to go to the other side of the Hudson or down to Philly. I have however heard some mixed opinions from others about Endeavor. They are very enticing however with the $20k a year retention bonus. They seem to be stabilizing within the past year.
Endeavor is a lot better choice than express jet. Pay, stable, well funded airline, well run (Delta) and a smaller pilot group with pilots going to delta. More movement at Endeavor than express jet.
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:00 PM
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The future of regionals? I'm hoping that none of the regionals have one.
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Originally Posted by Chupacabras View Post
Endeavor is a lot better choice than express jet. Pay, stable, well funded airline, well run (Delta) and a smaller pilot group with pilots going to delta. More movement at Endeavor than express jet.
There does appear to be more movement at Endeavor than at XJT. However, there is debate with the rest of this statement.

Ryan Gumm, president of Endeavor, was Comair's president when they were shut down. His history at Freedom, then Comair, doesn't lend itself to being a "well run airline." I was at Comair through the end and had two notable confrontations with him.

Consider XJT's ownership which is SkyWest Holdings. SkyWest Holdings doesn't like the E145s and is parking them. Some of those are going to TransStates. Several junior XJT junior F/Os are going elsewhere...some for QOL, quick upgrade and/or job security. I personally know two who are at PSA and I'm certain there are more. I know of more who went to TransStates as part of the CQFO hiring there earlier this year/late last year.

Unless you have a signed commitment which you have to satisfy, get your training at XJT and immediately...IMMEDIATELY...start looking elsewhere
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Originally Posted by Slim11 View Post
There does appear to be more movement at Endeavor than at XJT. However, there is debate with the rest of this statement.

Ryan Gumm, president of Endeavor, was Comair's president when they were shut down. His history at Freedom, then Comair, doesn't lend itself to being a "well run airline." I was at Comair through the end and had two notable confrontations with him.

Consider XJT's ownership which is SkyWest Holdings. SkyWest Holdings doesn't like the E145s and is parking them. Some of those are going to TransStates. Several junior XJT junior F/Os are going elsewhere...some for QOL, quick upgrade and/or job security. I personally know two who are at PSA and I'm certain there are more. I know of more who went to TransStates as part of the CQFO hiring there earlier this year/late last year.

Unless you have a signed commitment which you have to satisfy, get your training at XJT and immediately...IMMEDIATELY...start looking elsewhere
You have a common misconception about RG. He is not a CEO in the natural sense of the job. Delta puts him in his positions merely to "check the block" to fullfil US corporate law. He makes none of his own decisions for the companies he's shut down. He simply acts on orders from the real boss. Is current situations would have it, for the original poster, choices are abundant as to the beginning of your flying career. Choose liberally where to work.
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To the original poster. First off, ditto to what about everyone else said. I'd seriously consider other options . That being said, we are suppose to be hearing about a new TA soon . In my opinion, this is their last offer, or we get shut down . If we approve it, then that may change things. Basically, hopefully in the next few months, you'll know for sure
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey View Post
You have a common misconception about RG. He is not a CEO in the natural sense of the job. Delta puts him in his positions merely to "check the block" to fullfil US corporate law. He makes none of his own decisions for the companies he's shut down. He simply acts on orders from the real boss. Is current situations would have it, for the original poster, choices are abundant as to the beginning of your flying career. Choose liberally where to work.
I agree with your observations about Gumm. He's a puppet.

My comments stem from comments he made to the Comair employees about Comair's "future" when he, along with John Bendoraitis and CFO Dan Dixon insisted reducing Comair's fleet would put the company in a better position going forward. I told them it wouldn't work and provided my reasoning. Unfortunately, I was proven right.
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