SKW 200s restricted to 280 and 900s to 350
06-22-2015, 05:51 PM
#42
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
Thank the good Lord for this. Some idiot SKW cowboy was giving me a ride home from Den to Smf and thought it would be a good idea to go up to FL380 (in a 200) because the box said he could. 15 minutes to make it up there all the while losing speed and never could get it above about .64 up there. Coffin corner was smallest I've ever seen.
06-22-2015, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe
Come on man, you know what he meant to say.
Since the supercritical wing prevents the onset of mach tuck when the aircraft is operated within its limitations and the "box" spells out those limitations, coffin corner is a bit of a stretch.
I had a jump seater once panic and yell 'FLAPS, FLAPS!!!' just prior to landing. Turns out he was unfamiliar with our aircraft and the deck angle wigged him out. But he was mainline, and we were not so maybe he knew better?
06-22-2015, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DD214
I call bs on this, the 200 were company limited to FL370 since the Pinnacle accident if I am not mistaken just about every operator has this limitation. As a matter of fact our BOX as you call it would not give Data for FL380 in a OO 200. Just FACTS!
06-22-2015, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
Thank the good Lord for this. Some idiot SKW cowboy was giving me a ride home from Den to Smf and thought it would be a good idea to go up to FL380 (in a 200) because the box said he could. 15 minutes to make it up there all the while losing speed and never could get it above about .64 up there. Coffin corner was smallest I've ever seen.
06-22-2015, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
Thank the good Lord for this. Some idiot SKW cowboy was giving me a ride home from Den to Smf and thought it would be a good idea to go up to FL380 (in a 200) because the box said he could. 15 minutes to make it up there all the while losing speed and never could get it above about .64 up there. Coffin corner was smallest I've ever seen.
06-22-2015, 07:21 PM
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After coming from the corporate world where I was used to cruising in the mid 40s and 450-470 was not completely uncommon, it amazes me how skiddish some airline guys are about the mid to high 30s. Also, it amazes me how many bad habits I see like letting the speed drop way off to maintain climb rate, and pilots that seem ok with the fact that they cant get speed up and the nose down in cruise and fly along with a positive deck angle like it's a 172 in slow flight instead of just asking atc to go down 1-2k tolet the speed build.
06-22-2015, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Isn't this new policy just treating the symptom rather than the actual problem?
06-22-2015, 07:51 PM
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[QUOTE=gtechpilot;1912820]Not really - sounds like the aircraft was operated within its limitations.
Since the supercritical wing prevents the onset of mach tuck when the aircraft is operated within its limitations and the "box" spells out those limitations, coffin corner is a bit of a stretch.[j/QUOTE]
I see what you mean. I inferred that he meant the low speed cue.
Since the supercritical wing prevents the onset of mach tuck when the aircraft is operated within its limitations and the "box" spells out those limitations, coffin corner is a bit of a stretch.[j/QUOTE]
I see what you mean. I inferred that he meant the low speed cue.
