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Old 06-22-2015 | 05:13 PM
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Thank the good Lord for this. Some idiot SKW cowboy was giving me a ride home from Den to Smf and thought it would be a good idea to go up to FL380 (in a 200) because the box said he could. 15 minutes to make it up there all the while losing speed and never could get it above about .64 up there. Coffin corner was smallest I've ever seen.
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Old 06-22-2015 | 05:25 PM
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Thank the good Lord for this. Some idiot SKW cowboy was giving me a ride home from Den to Smf and thought it would be a good idea to go up to FL380 (in a 200) because the box said he could. 15 minutes to make it up there all the while losing speed and never could get it above about .64 up there. Coffin corner was smallest I've ever seen.
Coffin corner? In a CRJ 200????
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Old 06-22-2015 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Wow talking about inexperience pilots! Zero knowledge in high altitude aerodynamics. I will never set foot again on any regional.
+1! Looks like the AA pilots were right when they said that jets would be too much for regional (commuter) pilots to handle.
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Old 06-22-2015 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
Thank the good Lord for this. Some idiot SKW cowboy was giving me a ride home from Den to Smf and thought it would be a good idea to go up to FL380 (in a 200) because the box said he could. 15 minutes to make it up there all the while losing speed and never could get it above about .64 up there. Coffin corner was smallest I've ever seen.
Do they not use some sort of altitude capability chart that's based on weight, temperature, cg, and airspeed?
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Old 06-22-2015 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Well, there were those AA guys that got themselves super slow in an Airbus going into holding years back......
I heard they were Eagle flows.
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Old 06-22-2015 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gtechpilot
Coffin corner? In a CRJ 200????
Come on man, you know what he meant to say.
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Old 06-22-2015 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
Thank the good Lord for this. Some idiot SKW cowboy was giving me a ride home from Den to Smf and thought it would be a good idea to go up to FL380 (in a 200) because the box said he could. 15 minutes to make it up there all the while losing speed and never could get it above about .64 up there. Coffin corner was smallest I've ever seen.
I call bs on this, the 200 were company limited to FL370 since the Pinnacle accident if I am not mistaken just about every operator has this limitation. As a matter of fact our BOX as you call it would not give Data for FL380 in a OO 200. Just FACTS!
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Old 06-22-2015 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe
Come on man, you know what he meant to say.
Not really - sounds like the aircraft was operated within its limitations.
Since the supercritical wing prevents the onset of mach tuck when the aircraft is operated within its limitations and the "box" spells out those limitations, coffin corner is a bit of a stretch.

I had a jump seater once panic and yell 'FLAPS, FLAPS!!!' just prior to landing. Turns out he was unfamiliar with our aircraft and the deck angle wigged him out. But he was mainline, and we were not so maybe he knew better?
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Old 06-22-2015 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DD214
I call bs on this, the 200 were company limited to FL370 since the Pinnacle accident if I am not mistaken just about every operator has this limitation. As a matter of fact our BOX as you call it would not give Data for FL380 in a OO 200. Just FACTS!
I would second that - I haven't seen data for over FL360 at EV on a 200.
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Old 06-22-2015 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
Thank the good Lord for this. Some idiot SKW cowboy was giving me a ride home from Den to Smf and thought it would be a good idea to go up to FL380 (in a 200) because the box said he could. 15 minutes to make it up there all the while losing speed and never could get it above about .64 up there. Coffin corner was smallest I've ever seen.
I'm so confused. I thought Skywest pilots were the best of the best??
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