Isn't this new policy just treating the symptom rather than the actual problem?

 

I don't know what all you CRJ slobs are talking about, the Brazilian space shuttle is still flying high in the upper thur-tays.

 

15 mins would be damn impressive to 380 in fact I've yet to ever fly any RJ that can keep that rate of climb up!

 

After coming from the corporate world where I was used to cruising in the mid 40s and 450-470 was not completely uncommon, it amazes me how skiddish some airline guys are about the mid to high 30s. Also, it amazes me how many bad habits I see like letting the speed drop way off to maintain climb rate, and pilots that seem ok with the fact that they cant get speed up and the nose down in cruise and fly along with a positive deck angle like it's a 172 in slow flight instead of just asking atc to go down 1-2k tolet the speed build.

 

Someone gets it, it's band aids, bottom line is priortization, and it isn't being done. Saving fuel at 380 isn't high on my priority list.

 

[QUOTE=gtechpilot;1912820]Not really - sounds like the aircraft was operated within its limitations.
Since the supercritical wing prevents the onset of mach tuck when the aircraft is operated within its limitations and the "box" spells out those limitations, coffin corner is a bit of a stretch.[j/QUOTE]

I see what you mean. I inferred that he meant the low speed cue.

 

Complacency and inattentiveness were / are definitely the main problem, but I would say a contributing factor were the Econ speeds that we were requested / directed to fly. There were times we would get an Econ speed as low as .62. About 4 days ago guys were getting ACARS messages telling them they were going too fast. This is a great reason why people who are not pilots need to stay out of the cockpit.

The guys I fly with never concern themselves with the Econ speed and I've never been on a flight where we took it (CRJ200) below .70, even though the majority of the Econ speeds were well below that. I have never had an issue with a slow speed event.

I think the other issue is guys trying to make an extra buck which is pretty sickening. Some folks have that mindset, fortunately it's not one I encounter very often. Truthfully, this is an embarrassment...no doubt about it.

 

I think most guys agree with you CCB. That's no place to Fu*k around with airspeed. Hope all is well.

 

Can we pick up the maturity level a bit? There is probably a good reason SKW is going through this stuff. Maybe their planes are getting old, maybe someone in management is being overly catious. In any case, it's probably not because SKW pilots are inferior. We RJ drivers are all mostly civilian pilots with the same license and somewhere between 1.5k-10k hours trying to make it to our destination safely. Show some respect for your fellow man.

 

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