SKW 200s restricted to 280 and 900s to 350
06-22-2015, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Isn't this new policy just treating the symptom rather than the actual problem?
The guys I fly with never concern themselves with the Econ speed and I've never been on a flight where we took it (CRJ200) below .70, even though the majority of the Econ speeds were well below that. I have never had an issue with a slow speed event.
I think the other issue is guys trying to make an extra buck which is pretty sickening. Some folks have that mindset, fortunately it's not one I encounter very often. Truthfully, this is an embarrassment...no doubt about it.
06-22-2015, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Someone gets it, it's band aids, bottom line is priortization, and it isn't being done. Saving fuel at 380 isn't high on my priority list.
06-22-2015, 08:41 PM
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Can we pick up the maturity level a bit? There is probably a good reason SKW is going through this stuff. Maybe their planes are getting old, maybe someone in management is being overly catious. In any case, it's probably not because SKW pilots are inferior. We RJ drivers are all mostly civilian pilots with the same license and somewhere between 1.5k-10k hours trying to make it to our destination safely. Show some respect for your fellow man.
06-22-2015, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
I'm so confused. I thought Skywest pilots were the best of the best??
06-22-2015, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Joachim
Can we pick up the maturity level a bit? There is probably a good reason SKW is going through this stuff. Maybe their planes are getting old, maybe someone in management is being overly catious. In any case, it's probably not because SKW pilots are inferior. We RJ drivers are all mostly civilian pilots with the same license and somewhere between 1.5k-10k hours trying to make it to our destination safely. Show some respect for your fellow man.
According to some people on here SkyWest pilots ARE...sorry, were... better than everyone else.
Proof is in the pudding bro
06-22-2015, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
Thank the good Lord for this. Some idiot SKW cowboy was giving me a ride home from Den to Smf and thought it would be a good idea to go up to FL380 (in a 200) because the box said he could. 15 minutes to make it up there all the while losing speed and never could get it above about .64 up there. Coffin corner was smallest I've ever seen.
06-22-2015, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by skypilot35
Complacency and inattentiveness were / are definitely the main problem, but I would say a contributing factor were the Econ speeds that we were requested / directed to fly. There were times we would get an Econ speed as low as .62. About 4 days ago guys were getting ACARS messages telling them they were going too fast. This is a great reason why people who are not pilots need to stay out of the cockpit.
The guys I fly with never concern themselves with the Econ speed and I've never been on a flight where we took it (CRJ200) below .70, even though the majority of the Econ speeds were well below that. I have never had an issue with a slow speed event.
I think the other issue is guys trying to make an extra buck which is pretty sickening. Some folks have that mindset, fortunately it's not one I encounter very often. Truthfully, this is an embarrassment...no doubt about it.
The guys I fly with never concern themselves with the Econ speed and I've never been on a flight where we took it (CRJ200) below .70, even though the majority of the Econ speeds were well below that. I have never had an issue with a slow speed event.
I think the other issue is guys trying to make an extra buck which is pretty sickening. Some folks have that mindset, fortunately it's not one I encounter very often. Truthfully, this is an embarrassment...no doubt about it.
We've been doing the whole smart CI thing and as far as I know, we haven't gotten any memos about any UAS...yet. But it sounds like the ERJ is more forgiving. Do you guys have a SMS yet?
