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Old 01-24-2007 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Because some people make bad life decisions such as going with the first airline to offer them a job. Then once the honey moon is over and they see flying a shiny jet full of people for what it is (a JOB), they realize there are better places to be in order to reach your goals. Example: If you want to upgrade quick, get your PIC and get hired at SWA or FedEx then going with Horizon or Eagle is a bad career move. If you want to have a home with walls made of something sturdier than cardboard and eat more than rat turds, going with Mesa is a bad career move. See where I'm going?

Some people will tell you "Get on with ANY airline as soon as you can no matter what! Get on that seniority list, it means everything!" Thats a load of BS. It doesn't matter how quick you get on a seniority list if you just jump ship in a year because you hate life. Now you're six months and 100 numbers below your buddy who waited for the right opportunity to come around. I've seen it over and over here at XJT. Ask Saab, he is uber junior to me but he was flying 121 way before I was. Get my point?

Makes perfect sense.
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Old 01-24-2007 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Some people will tell you "Get on with ANY airline as soon as you can no matter what! Get on that seniority list, it means everything!" Thats a load of BS. It doesn't matter how quick you get on a seniority list if you just jump ship in a year because you hate life. Now you're six months and 100 numbers below your buddy who waited for the right opportunity to come around. I've seen it over and over here at XJT. Ask Saab, he is uber junior to me but he was flying 121 way before I was. Get my point?
Couldn't of said it better myself! We see it time and time again, all you would have to do is pole a Mesa new hire class and see where they are in a year. I'll tell you where they are, sitting behind us at SKW or XJT!

One of my instructors went to Mesa just after I got my CFI and now he’s 200+ numbers behind me at SKW, he had a year head start on me! SAD!
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Old 01-24-2007 | 09:04 PM
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[QUOTE=Ellen;106909]Some of my friends at SKYW said that they have organized a 1-2 day (Call-in-Sick Stoppage of Work) to coincide with SKYW's earnings conference on February 7th.



I highly doubt it.
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Old 01-25-2007 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Time for the BS flag...

You obviously know nothing about SKW whatsoever, so why are you making a fool of yourself? I know all about both SKW and alpa (from painful personnel experience).

My difficult decision to not support the alpa drive was reached after hearing several alpa pushers (such as yourself) telling outright lies to new-hires during their recruitment drives. The idea is noble, but the implementation is crappola (esp at the regional level). Fix mesa first, then come talk to ME

SKW does a very good job of taking care of their own, lots of people do lots of stupid sh*T here (including bending airplanes) and get to keep their jobs. Unless you lie or show up drunk, they will work with you. I know, I know...at an alpa carrier drunks, coke users, and liers get to keep their jobs too. Well, you know what? If you're a liar, I'd rather see you fired than not. If you have a substance abuse problem, get help NOW before you get caught (or kill someone).
hahahahah,, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT SKYWEST??? wow man you must really know me. suffice it to say you may work there, and i still probably know as many people as you there. i could walk into the main offices by the tower at the slc airport and talk with alot of my friends. I CHOSE not to go to skywest for several reasons. 1st, wanted to get back to the south seeing thats where i am from and was tired of utah. 2nd, although there was a lot of growth, there were also a lot of complaints from my buddies. i wont go into the list since you obviously know the answers to everything!! JM is rappant just so you know. I just talked to a friend of mine and he has gotten 2 calls this week. luckily right now you can flat out refuse a jm assignement, but that will change, the company will make it so you cant refuse, or you get a certain amount of refusels. and then what buddy? You just have to do it!!! no binding contract to help you out. with all this growth they are just going to make up rules as they go along and you are going to be the one to pay for it. pay attention man. you must not have been in the business to long.

by the way, wasn't a skywest pilot that was on the news recently for being drunk?

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Old 01-25-2007 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound
As someone who is starting to put in resume's I have on question that no one seems to want to answer: If SkyWest is so bad why are so many 121 pilot's quitting their current job's to go there? It just seems to me that if having the union is so great and wonderful and makes their job's sooooo much better why quit your job at a unionized 121 carrier to go to that awful non-unionized SkyWest? Seems ironic to me but I seriously want to know.
Its not that a union makes your job better. What it does is gives you a contract with the company. And since its a contract they cant break it without an loa, and people have to agree to an loa anyway. where as at skywest i remember a few years ago when they changed the 8 hours bottle to throttle rule to 12 hours bottle to throttle. They did it without asking anyone. they just made it a rule. personally i think 8 hours isn't enough anyway, but that just goes to show you that if they can change that they will change anything,, all they have to do is get their buddys at sapa onboard, and we all know how easy that is. also ask the guys at colgan how much they want a union now that they were bought by a union carrier. all skywest is doing is whipsawing the asa (alpa) pilots to death! closing bases, taking planes, its one of the biggest whipsaws ever!

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Old 01-25-2007 | 06:49 AM
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The children pilots who post here are really starting to **** off older pilots. Your job is to fly, not negotiate for better pay, a better life...its to fly. Its what you like to tell the ladies at your local pick-up bar.(that's pobably depressingly true) I fly for a small corporate company and it's always about the customer. I think when you're 20 anything in this generation you're filled with entitlement. Most of you cranks didn't serve a day in our military, didn't compete at an elite level of athletics, didn't work a really, really hard day in your life and you want some friggin union to come into your life and protect your ignorant hiney when you screw up while on the job.

These boards are filled with young cocky arrogant children and in your twenties you are a friggin child. You have no life experience so stop trying to play grown up. Just work, be humble, call your parents and tell em you love em and thanks for giving you the opportunity to fly for a living...'cause they probably had some big hand in making that a reality. Just keep your mouth shut and one day, it'll be your turn to be CA. Stop worrying about all this crap because there's so much more to life than a shiny jet and epaulets. I think lots of folks here have forgotten that. Dig deep 'cause that's where you'll find the perserverance to suck it up and deal.

Skywest sounds like a damn fine opportunity as does Horizon and ExpressJet. You guys are lucky. It sucks to see this bitching back and forth.

Sorry for saying all this but damn these posts are just too much.
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Old 01-25-2007 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by swimbody
The children pilots who post here are really starting to **** off older pilots. Your job is to fly, not negotiate for better pay, a better life...its to fly. Its what you like to tell the ladies at your local pick-up bar.(that's pobably depressingly true) I fly for a small corporate company and it's always about the customer. I think when you're 20 anything in this generation you're filled with entitlement. Most of you cranks didn't serve a day in our military, didn't compete at an elite level of athletics, didn't work a really, really hard day in your life and you want some friggin union to come into your life and protect your ignorant hiney when you screw up while on the job.

These boards are filled with young cocky arrogant children and in your twenties you are a friggin child. You have no life experience so stop trying to play grown up. Just work, be humble, call your parents and tell em you love em and thanks for giving you the opportunity to fly for a living...'cause they probably had some big hand in making that a reality. Just keep your mouth shut and one day, it'll be your turn to be CA. Stop worrying about all this crap because there's so much more to life than a shiny jet and epaulets. I think lots of folks here have forgotten that. Dig deep 'cause that's where you'll find the perserverance to suck it up and deal.

Skywest sounds like a damn fine opportunity as does Horizon and ExpressJet. You guys are lucky. It sucks to see this bitching back and forth.

Sorry for saying all this but damn these posts are just too much.
Ok, I don't want to appear rude or anything, but this is EXACTLY the mentality that has reduced regionals to their current status. If we don't strive for QOL, managements across the board would actually have the pilots paying the company to fly! I'm sorry my friend, but you couldn't be more wrong about this point.
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Old 01-25-2007 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by swimbody
The children pilots who post here are really starting to **** off older pilots. Your job is to fly, not negotiate for better pay, a better life...its to fly. Its what you like to tell the ladies at your local pick-up bar.(that's pobably depressingly true) I fly for a small corporate company and it's always about the customer. I think when you're 20 anything in this generation you're filled with entitlement. Most of you cranks didn't serve a day in our military, didn't compete at an elite level of athletics, didn't work a really, really hard day in your life and you want some friggin union to come into your life and protect your ignorant hiney when you screw up while on the job.

These boards are filled with young cocky arrogant children and in your twenties you are a friggin child. You have no life experience so stop trying to play grown up. Just work, be humble, call your parents and tell em you love em and thanks for giving you the opportunity to fly for a living...'cause they probably had some big hand in making that a reality. Just keep your mouth shut and one day, it'll be your turn to be CA. Stop worrying about all this crap because there's so much more to life than a shiny jet and epaulets. I think lots of folks here have forgotten that. Dig deep 'cause that's where you'll find the perserverance to suck it up and deal.

Skywest sounds like a damn fine opportunity as does Horizon and ExpressJet. You guys are lucky. It sucks to see this bitching back and forth.

Sorry for saying all this but damn these posts are just too much.
oh SNAP,, this guy is crazy. He is the capt that tells the fo to sit on his hands, shut up, and look out the window, while he flies the plane straight into the ground. yeah. this is the guy i want to be in charge of an airplane. i thought that additude was almost gone from the industry, what with the several accidents that have been attributed to such a thing.

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Old 01-25-2007 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Airsupport
oh SNAP,, this guy is crazy. He is the capt that tells the fo to sit on his hands, shut up, and look out the window, while he flies the plane straight into the ground. yeah. this is the guy i want to be in charge of an airplane. i thought that additude was almost gone from the industry, what with the several accidents that have been attributed to such a thing.
Actually, I doubt he's a captain at all... He just posted elsewhere he needed a multi partner so he could get enough time for the regionals... Which is why I'm confused about him lecturing us about being such a "lazy" generation?

Originally Posted by swimbody
Hey guys,

If I'm to get the requisite hours for the regionals I'm going to need a partner to fulfill those hours. We could rent a Seminole or something of the sort from Monarch. I'd like to take a few long cross country flights to New Orleans, Santa Fe or Phoenix. That should take care of what I need. I only need 20 more. I'm going by myself if I can't find anyone this week. I live two minutes from Addison so last minute stuff is fine. PM me or contact me by email if you are interested.

I posted here since there are so many people looking for the minimums for regionals.

Sorry if this offends.

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Old 01-25-2007 | 09:29 AM
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wow,, so he really is just crazy then, not a power trip, or an entitlement issue, he is just really crazy. ok, i can live with that.
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