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sublime259 08-04-2015 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd (Post 1943579)
No just you. No I don't buy most of the hype. Now let Air Woosterheden have their thread back.

So words like "industry leading" "concessionary" and "backstabbing" mean nothing to you? Thanks for proving my point. You sure do know a lot more then me! :rolleyes:

It's no wonder why people talk shlt about PDT and PSA pilots. Now go to sleep you child, it's past your bedtime.

As for billyho, w tf are you even talking about? Start making some sense and then get back to me.


I'm done with you idiots for tonight. Good luck to the AWAC guys on getting a good TA. They're a RESPECTED pilot group who deserves to be treated as such.

billyho 08-04-2015 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1943585)
So words like "industry leading" "concessionary" and "backstabbing" mean nothing to you? Thanks for proving my point. You sure do know a lot more then me! :rolleyes:

It's no wonder why people talk shlt about PDT and PSA pilots. Now go to sleep you child, it's past your bedtime.

As for billyho, w tf are you even talking about? Start making some sense and then get back to me.


I'm done with you idiots for tonight. Good luck to the AWAC guys on getting a good TA. They're a RESPECTED pilot group who deserves to be treated as such.

Go back and look at your post! PSA, PSA, PSA, PSA, PSA, PSA.... You work for envoy and PSA screwed us. Oh wait, Piedmont screwed us. But wait you guys still voted yes also. Envoy is so much better??? Give me a break!

Go back to eating your hot dogs.

Gobble Gobble

billyho 08-04-2015 08:14 PM

Yes I'm done also!

Good luck to AWAC and there TA. I hope it has big improvements and I'm sorry if I say I hope it allows for Growth and a future. God forbid people take that the wrong way.

prex8390 08-04-2015 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1943589)
Yes I'm done also!

Good luck to AWAC and there TA. I hope it has big improvements and I'm sorry if I say I hope it allows for Growth and a future. God forbid people take that the wrong way.

Their*****

deltajuliet 08-04-2015 10:56 PM

I want to know where Air Wisconsin gets the money to pay their pilots somewhat appropriately, especially with their uncertain future, and why other regional managements can't do the same.

SMACFUM 08-04-2015 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1943504)
Yes, but I realize the pressure these guys are under. They need to get there fixed cost in order and pray that one of the majors will sign off on a deal that Parker wasn't willing to do.

Good Pilot group and hopefully they will find a home over the next couple of years.


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1943509)
How so JohnLocke??? The regionals and there major carriers are all about cost. Just look around at the industry??? It is what it is. Piedmont is offering a quick upgrade and a job at American and that is a nice carrot for many. So if that's the case then yes I'm pathetic.
:rolleyes:


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1943589)
Yes I'm done also!

Good luck to AWAC and there TA. I hope it has big improvements and I'm sorry if I say I hope it allows for Growth and a future. God forbid people take that the wrong way.

Jesus H. F'ing Christ!!!! It's "THEIR" T H E I R

Their | Define Their at Dictionary.com

Learn how to Spell for the love of Christ......IDIOTS

Xtreme87 08-05-2015 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1943624)
I want to know where Air Wisconsin gets the money to pay their pilots somewhat appropriately, especially with their uncertain future, and why other regional managements can't do the same.

They didn't ***** themselves out for crappy CPA's.

saab2000 08-05-2015 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1943624)
I want to know where Air Wisconsin gets the money to pay their pilots somewhat appropriately, especially with their uncertain future, and why other regional managements can't do the same.

  • They (the owners of AWAC) negotiated well with US Airways when they (along with RAH) saved US Airways, which was close to Ch. 7.
  • They're not up to their eyeballs in debt to pay for brand new (shiny) jets. Flying old, paid-for equipment has it's advantages.
  • They get paid for each completion and AWAC generally completes 99% or more of the flights.

That's a start.

Those who think we can have a contract to allow for growth don't get it. That growth would have to undercut someone else in this industry, perpetuating the whipsaw effect. The company can't offer a flow through agreement like many other wholly owned operators so there must be more on the table. We'll see what happens.

buddies8 08-05-2015 02:38 AM

wish you all good luck

JohnLocke 08-05-2015 02:40 AM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1943509)
How so JohnLocke??? The regionals and there major carriers are all about cost. Just look around at the industry??? It is what it is. Piedmont is offering a quick upgrade and a job at American and that is a nice carrot for many. So if that's the case then yes I'm pathetic.
:rolleyes:

Because you're so deluded that you think lowering the bar even further is justifiable if it will get YOU to a major just a little bit quicker.

This industry is already a joke, and losers like you who care about nothing but airplanes don't see the value in trying to raise the standards. Just because airlines are about cost doesn't mean it's your job to subsidize the feed with your already pathetic paycheck.


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