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highflyer0685 08-10-2015 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace (Post 1946951)
So where are the details on this new TA?

Wednesday August 19th should get details.

billyho 08-19-2015 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1943563)
When you made a post hoping they got a TA that encourages growth (meaning concessionary as opposed to industry leading.) Are you really that dense?

I guess not right?????

billyho 08-19-2015 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by FODhopper (Post 1946930)
It's important that your arguments be refuted out in the open....so you will be tolerated...barely.

FOD I'm not against you guys. We are all battling the machine.

Good Luck with your vote. I've got more then just a few friends over at Airwilly.

Realtalk 08-19-2015 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1952688)
FOD I'm not against you guys. We are all battling the machine.

Good Luck with your vote. I've got more then just a few friends over at Airwilly.

I doubt you have any friends billy ho, because honestly, everyone on here thinks your a complete bag of dildos.

Spare me your UNITY crap, we are ALL battling the machine?!? What kind of world of Warcraft stuff are you into? Pdt didn't hold any line so quit acting like your helping us out.

billyho 08-19-2015 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Realtalk (Post 1952790)
I doubt you have any friends billy ho, because honestly, everyone on here thinks your a complete bag of dildos.

Spare me your UNITY crap, we are ALL battling the machine?!? What kind of world of Warcraft stuff are you into? Pdt didn't hold any line so quit acting like your helping us out.

Well you guys vote no and carry the torch!

Realtalk 08-19-2015 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1952824)
Well you guys vote no and carry the torch!

How about you go take your touch and go play your little games child

billyho 08-19-2015 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Realtalk (Post 1952840)
How about you go take your touch and go play your little games child


Go back and find something I stated that was wrong. Go back to the PDT TA thread and look how many AWAC folks bashed us. I've not even come close to the venom you guys tossed at us. Welcome to the table and it's your turn to grab the sh&t pie also. PSA took a bit, Pdt and Envoy. Hell a bunch of Regionals have.
Look at the Brightside. You vote this in and you still remain one of the top paid Regionals and one with a damn good contract. However if you can't move the senior people out of there then FO's will start jumping ship. Increases in first year pay isn't going keep people there. Anyone that can upgrade in just over a year will take that airline. Any normal person thats seen this industry knows that's what will happen. Don't need to be a rocket scientist. Piedmont used to be that airline and times have changed.
Honestly looking at AWAC deal I feel actually ours is WAY better.

Good Luck

eaglefly 08-19-2015 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1952824)
Well you guys vote no and carry the torch!

I think it's obvious you have gotten your answer. AWAC is simply just another domino to fall in the only winless game that airline pilots know how to play.

billyho 08-19-2015 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1952898)
I think it's obvious you have gotten your answer. AWAC is simply just another domino to fall in the only winless game that airline pilots know how to play.

Yes Eaglefly you've been around long enough to get it.

akulahunter 08-19-2015 07:39 PM

Here is what I know (and you as well)... NOTHING! Not a single person on here knows what the regional landscape will be like in five years.

Things that seem pretty apparent to me (but maybe not to you guys who have genius level intellects)...

1) Will you need PIC to get hired two, three or five years from now? Most people seem to think not, but even so... I'll take my chances. There has already been a significant drop in hours/astronaut qualifications required at the major airlines. Slow trickle for the last year (if you call 100+ a month per airline a slow trickle), but within a couple of years hiring will be ridiculous. I'm glad guys that have flow will flow, but my money is on anyone hired today would get hired on without flow before the flow would kick in...
2) Tomorrow, if some ridiculous world event happened, would you rather be stuck where you are or where I am? No flow at that point for sure...
3) It would be great if ALL regional airlines would band together around the campfire and sing songs and make smores. The reality is... Almost every other regional who has agreed to a TA has either taken a step back or taken such a small step forward that it doesn't even compare to our concessionary contract. Arguably a point of fact, AWAC has the best contract (overall) in the regional industry (yes, I know that's an oxymoron). Anything that makes it even marginally better, makes it that much better than the others.

(Billy, Oxymoron means a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction.)


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