NetJets, XOJET, Flexjet???

 

Yeah, that's why it's called an average. There will
ALWAYS be less, and ALWAYS MORE.

It's like the guys that practically orgasm in their pants over "I was hired at 25 years old!!!!!!!"

Good for that guy. Coming out of the "dark decade", there's EASILY 6-7-8 hired hired in their late 30's to mid 40's for every pilot hired in their 20's. As well as their 50's. UAL hired a 61 year old. For every pure mil pilot hired with 1500-2000/mid-late 30's there's EASILY 3-4-5 with well over 3k that went a full 20 years and is mid 40's.

A friend of mine was in their mid 30's when hired at UAL, they were the "8 ball", the YOUNGEST in the class. The pure mil hires were all older than them. And for being a pure civilian background, one of the "lower time" in the class at 9k TT and 3k TPIC and only 2 type ratings. Everyone (mil and civ) had plenty of TPIC/AC time. EVERYONE was typed/qualified on at least 2 platforms. Naturally, the class before them had younger lower time pilots, as did the class after. AGAIN, it's called an "average".

The good news? The numbers published by the DAL LAX CP earlier this year show hours for new hires in all categories and all demographics dropping for 2014 vs. 2013. And for 2015 that trend will likely continue.

There's been plenty of pilots hired from said regionals that applied, and were hired outside of a flow, SSP, ETD, or whatever else it's labeled.

 

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/mi...-update-3.html

You should have started with a search on some key words on this forum. There is a ton of info in the military forum on this very subject. It sounds like you have been hiding from reality a bit. I can't believe no one in your squadron or circle of friends has not done their airline research already to answer basic questions of how seniority works, and what flight time is competitive where. In this day and age of total force above all babble-speak put out by big blue, I can't believe you've never met a guardsmen or reservist with an airline job.

Good luck, lucky for you it is not too late.

 

You are just all charm aren't you. Pretty much everything you said here is nonsense.

In 2008 myself and tons of other pilots were non-vol'd to go fly UAVs, and I'm one of the few that was fortunate enough to get released to fly manned aircraft again in 2014. So the last year has been spent not looking at the airlines but throwing myself at flying in order to get back up to speed after over five years out of the cockpit.

Getting back in the cockpit was unexpected for me, and I thought I was dead in the water when it came to manned aircraft. I spent most of my time researching UAV contracting jobs in the private sector prior to 2014.

 

Just pick a regional with a close base. Its going to suck...like really really bad...and then when you think its sucked as bad as it can suck it will suck a little more. Then apply like crazy to the majors. With mil time youll be alright man.

Better off than the rest of us with thousands of hours Civilian.

 

I am sorry about what big blue to you and all the TAMI 21 folks, but just as with the airlines, military service has some bit of timing and luck. You folks had bad luck when the AF ramped up RPA orbits to satisfy combatant commanders never ending desire for more real time ISR info. But you are back flying and current! If you researched RPA contractor jobs for a year, then why not take a few days to do some research on one of the best resources out there...This forum. Guardsmen and reservists are everywhere, starting at UPT, and even in RPAs. If we are not in your community, you certainly will work with us somewhere on an exercise or a deployment. Explain how my post is nonsense?

 

And yet NOTHING tweet said was false or not true. It's the REALITY.

 

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So rather than argue back and forth do you have any advice for me going into the airlines?

Next June, I find out if I am either getting retained to 20, getting early retired at 15, or getting kicked out. If I get kicked out I have about 14 months from today's date left in the Air Force before I exit, so trying to be ready for that worst case scenario.

 

Get as much irrefutable A-code time as you can now and keep track of who you fly with and when, so you can account for it on job apps.

Search the mil forum on the topics, log books, ANG and AFRC jobs, ANG/AFRC retiree hire program, military leave, USERRA, Interview Prep, and do Emerald Coast's Interview Prep.

EC will help your interview skills at all levels for ANG/AFRC, regionals, or majors.

If you get kicked out, try to get a T-1 IP job with the 340th FTG. This hiring wave is starting to effect the manning in both AGR and TR ranks, and it will boost your multi turbine PIC Time. People poo poo the T-37 vs the T-6 all the time, then complain about why company X doesn't count single turbo prop, if that is the predominance of their PIC time. The Tweet got me 2k of IP/PIC time in a twin jet and I have the hearing loss to prove it, and everyone's app accepts it. Plus you can put food on the table and have better QOL while you wait for a regional job, have better QOL if you have to go the regionals, and network with airline pilots in the squadron.

If you get TERA, I think you might be able to avoid the regionals, depending on how much PIC you can get in the next year. But I would not shy away from a regional. I went to ASA in 2004 to put 121 time on my resume. I hated the pay, and did a ton of mil leave, but I liked the CRJ, loved the guys I flew with, and their training department was top notch. I think having that box checked on my ticket got me out of there into my current gig in less than 6 months. I know a few retirees who have done a year or so at regionals to stay current, and a few reservists who have done it to put 121 time on their resume.

A year is enough time to learn all this. If you get to go until 20, then it is more time to learn. If you get a non flying assignment to finish out, you will have to do a regional to get current again. The shortage of qualified pilots willing to work for their low wages virtually ensures that anyone willing to work with no skeletons in the closet will get hired regardless of recency of experience. A friend was furloughed from Net Jets, working a non flying ANG job, and got hired last year at Chautauqua after four years not flying to use them to get current for a major airline job. He went to training, did IOE, and got 100 hours, then went mil leave until 2nd year pay kicked in.

There are many paths to your dream job and they all take hard work. There is still a bit of timing and luck. I know two navs who separated when I did in 1992 who had airline jobs before 2000, and I went to UPT on a guard pilot slot as a prior EWO.

Good luck. I hope this helps.