Missed approach altitude
08-12-2015, 02:21 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Just so we are clear, the AIM is not regulatory. It's best practices. You cannot be violated for AIM non-compliance unless it is determined that the action you took was reckless.
08-12-2015, 03:02 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Just so we are clear, the AIM is not regulatory. It's best practices. You cannot be violated for AIM non-compliance unless it is determined that the action you took was reckless.
"Here is my argument to all those that say the AIM is not "regulatory"...
"Where does it say you have to stop at a hold short line in the FARs?"
Answer: NOWHERE! Only the AIM states this."
I know there are other things the AIM states that you kind of have to do that aren't listed in any other regulations but I don't have time right now to look them up. But plenty of debate on whether the AIM is regulatory/mandatory online. And the ol reckless clause can be used on any deviation from the norm/"accepted best practices" in the AIM which effectively makes it regulatory at the FAA's whim.
08-12-2015, 03:23 PM
#34
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The one thing that I always come back to on these questions is this:
If I follow what my company's manuals say, I will not get in trouble. If I do not, there is a good chance that I will. Therefore, I always go with answer A.
If I follow what my company's manuals say, I will not get in trouble. If I do not, there is a good chance that I will. Therefore, I always go with answer A.
08-12-2015, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearswinger
The one thing that I always come back to on these questions is this:
If I follow what my company's manuals say, I will not get in trouble. If I do not, there is a good chance that I will. Therefore, I always go with answer A.
If I follow what my company's manuals say, I will not get in trouble. If I do not, there is a good chance that I will. Therefore, I always go with answer A.
08-12-2015, 04:31 PM
#37
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This is so simple, go around,
"Podunk Tower, Call sign, on the go, request closed"
Tower can say either, "Closed approved, report base" or "Call sign, insert instructions, call radar on XXX.xx"
GF
"Podunk Tower, Call sign, on the go, request closed"
Tower can say either, "Closed approved, report base" or "Call sign, insert instructions, call radar on XXX.xx"
GF
08-12-2015, 04:36 PM
#38
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
This is so simple, go around,
"Podunk Tower, Call sign, on the go, request closed"
Tower can say either, "Closed approved, report base" or "Call sign, insert instructions, call radar on XXX.xx"
GF
"Podunk Tower, Call sign, on the go, request closed"
Tower can say either, "Closed approved, report base" or "Call sign, insert instructions, call radar on XXX.xx"
GF
08-12-2015, 04:43 PM
#40
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Guys...
Obviously this isn't that big of a deal but it does make for a fun discussion. For those of you getting frustrated that the conversation is taking place because the answer is so easy...chill. If it were that easy there wouldn't be so many differing opinions on it.
And I ask not because it's what I think about all day, but because it has come up multiple times and I enjoy finding answers to questions I'm not 100% on.
I appreciate those who have taken time and brain power to discuss the topic however.
Obviously this isn't that big of a deal but it does make for a fun discussion. For those of you getting frustrated that the conversation is taking place because the answer is so easy...chill. If it were that easy there wouldn't be so many differing opinions on it.
And I ask not because it's what I think about all day, but because it has come up multiple times and I enjoy finding answers to questions I'm not 100% on.
I appreciate those who have taken time and brain power to discuss the topic however.
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