While this is true, the class you're referencing was very small. The class before that awarded for december had 30 guys in it and went very jr. There were even some new hire Captains in it. So had you had your 1000 hours and had your bid in, you would have very easily held it. What you said isn't incorrect but it isn't painting the full picture either. Don't get me wrong, I'm not justifying anyone coming here for a quick upgrade at all because I believe that ship has most likely sailed but the class you're referencing is the only class in quite some time that has gone to senior FOs only.

 

The upgrade time at PSA is not currently two years .... What would you say it is ?

 

Where are the 30-55 per month that are leaving, going? Thanks for the info.

 

Current upgrade time is only the upgrade time for those currently upgrading. It has no bearing for a new hire. PSA and Compass hired a huge % of their pilot group over the last 1-2 years to cover massive attrition and growth. A new hire coming there today will not experience the same "quick upgrade" unless the companies go through another phase of massive attrition and growth, which isn't likely to happen in this market.

On top of that, the majority of those getting the "quick upgrade" had prior 121 time to upgrade above other deferrals, who as a result saw their upgrade time extend.

RAH can't staff their airline appropriately and has been shrinking and showing no signs of going the other way. Going there will mean your upgrade time will be longer than if you went to a regional that isn't shrinking and has similar captain attrition. It will be even longer than at one with higher captain attrition (Endeavor via SSP agreement with Delta).

 

Thanks for the good info, guys.

Sogtivr6- Shouldn't the upgrades be coming down with the 200s coming as well as movement off the top? A recruiter told me a new hire could expect less than 3 yrs to upgrade. I know its all speculation but is that reasonable with added airframes and attrition?

 

He is trying to correlate his upgrade time of 8 years to what a new hire will experience. Since Endeavor has a higher than normal attrition now and is going to be growing, a new hire going there will probably experience the quickest upgrade versus any other regional out there. Add on top of that the first 3 years as a first officer nets you $160,000 versus $110,000 elsewhere and its appeal is even higher.

 

The last most junior CA went to a 2/14 hire, are you senior to him?

 

Yea that's what I was thinking...

 

Mostly Sprit Jetblue, atlas, allegiant. There are some going to other regionals that have time for a faster upgrade. About 10 to 15 percent going to Delta, Southwest, United, American. Every once in a while you hear of a guy going to Fedex or UPS.

 

More CA or even number of FO getting hired on?