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RJ Pilot 11-28-2015 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 2018127)
Wow,man. **********.

It's obvious you bought into his whole martyr persona hook, line, and sinker. I'm not going to change your views, but just keep in mind this:

He was a good rep on a personal pilot level. Meaning if you needed to do a carpet dance in the CPO he was a good guy to have there with you. Other than that, Cujo was a walking disaster from one end to the other.

He returned calls? That's his freakin' job as a rep!!!!!! All reps as far as I know return calls/texts. They certainly do in DFW.

Cujo did major damage to this pilot group by pushing his personal views and convincing enough people to buy into his BS. His mantra for most of 2013/2014 was that everyone on property was going to get hired off the street at mainline in 3 years or less, therefore we should scuttle the ship. The sheep bought into it and Cujo felt really proud of himself.

It wasn't until late 2014 that he realized what a mistake he had made and did an about face on his views. But good luck getting him to admit he was ever wrong. He wanted to have his cake and eat it too (pardon the pun). He continued to argue that he was right in March of 2014 with the NO vote and right in December 2014 with the YES vote....even though the December offer was worse than the March one.

It's one or the other....you can't have it both ways. But that is exactly what he wanted. Then there are his issues within the Union. He continually over stepped his boundaries by attempting to negotiate directly with management. It backfired on him in the Summer of 2014, he quickly retreated into the shadows and swept it under the rug.

Sam Pool who was always his ally back in the NY rep days quickly turned on him. For the past year Cujo was isolated within the Union and the only people who gave him the time of day was his fan club on Eagle Lounge. He did more damage to this pilot group than 30 people could have done if they tried.

Oh, and all of that is not even getting into his attendance abuse. Punching out on PAID Union leave just to get out of having to work is bad form to say the least. Especially when you then use that time to take a vacation to Disney. He would regularly abuse the sick call/union leave system, thereby leaving the actual work to be done by some poor pilot who had to cover for him.

That is just he beginning of it. There is plenty more and the company didn't single him out. In fact they gave him one opportunity after another. The problem is he thought he was invincible and could get away with anything.

Every dog has his day.

Good Luck!

FlameNSky 11-28-2015 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox (Post 2018058)

The short version: Outspoken CA rep ticks management and other pilots off by not staying in line, however the rep does a lot of good by shaking things up as well. Pis ses the company off repeatedly so they make sure to bust him and fire him.

Kind of like our own little Donald Trump. Without the money of course, since he was a lowly regional pilot.

AdiosMikeFox 11-28-2015 08:37 PM

Take away Trump's hair and money and he'd be just another forum troll.

Harpyr 11-28-2015 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 2016922)
flying from 3 different Regionals is returning to Envoy in droves

Not true about the amount, and even then its not permanently. That could change, but its not true at this point.

To the Cujo/Mason connection: False information was deliberately fed to Cujo and that same information turned up immediately from the Mason handle here on APC, and I do mean immediately.

Its long since passed and doesn't matter, but that's what happened.

At any rate, he's a guy with a family trying to make it in this world, just like many of us. Regardless of the nature of his termination and what we think about it, he's still gotta make it with no income over the holidays and his imminent flow to AA lost. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

be76flyer 11-29-2015 08:29 AM

For the love of god Ray, stop posting.

AdiosMikeFox 11-29-2015 09:33 AM

What're they gonna do, fire him?

boiler07 12-01-2015 09:45 AM

Ray told the CP that he wouldn't be coming into work because he needed to be with his family. (not arguing the validity of this, but that's what happened)

He then went to Disney and missed a few days of work. The company tried to say he no call/no showed for 3 days which is grounds for termination.

I'm sure he'll say I'm wrong if this isn't correct.

thefoxsays 12-01-2015 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by boiler07 (Post 2019559)
Ray told the CP that he wouldn't be coming into work because he needed to be with his family. (not arguing the validity of this, but that's what happened)

He then went to Disney and missed a few days of work. The company tried to say he no call/no showed for 3 days which is grounds for termination.

I'm sure he'll say I'm wrong if this isn't correct.


That's what put him on probation... But not why he was terminated....

FlameNSky 12-01-2015 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by thefoxsays (Post 2019819)
That's what put him on probation... But not why he was terminated....

It really isn't any of our business.

FirstClass 12-01-2015 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by FlameNSky (Post 2019855)
It really isn't any of our business.

It is if the union is getting involved to bring him back.


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