A perceived stinginess among management and a very underwhelming reception to "the new American." I think the payrates will be lower than United and Delta's too. Parker might've been better than Smisek, but I'd rather negotiate with Munoz or Anderson in the future.

I could be wrong on this or have an outdated perception, but I think UAL/DAL have more widebody jobs too.

But that being said, yes, most guys would still happily accept a class date at AA.

Ok, let me retry that...

3 legacy major carriers that characteristically are known for flying large aircraft and having the best pay and benefits, they are the ones most pilots in the industry aspire to work for. The commonly used definition. Not the wiki version.

Hopefully that's enough qualifiers, lol.

Well, he's technically right. A major airline is any airline with more than $1 Billion in annual revenues. However, I believe, your intent is commonly understood.


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There's no way you were actually being serious posting that link.

Would it hurt a new hire to respectfully decline a position at one wholly owned for another? Say someone turned down Envoy for Endeavor, do you think the legacy codeshare would later look unfavorably on that?

This is exactly what I'm planning on. Glad to see someone else in the same boat


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If you choose another job over a certain company, as long as you let them know respectfully that you appreciate the offer but have found something else that better suits you, then you're fine. The company will drop everything on you and you will disappear from their minds and system. When they give people class dates and offers, and then the person is a no show or just disappears, this is when you begin to make lists that you don't want to be on.

It's done all the time. Just as people leave one regional for another, pretty much every single day. The key to success is to be polite and professional. Burned bridges not only hurt you, but others around you sometimes.

This is APC. I would have been more confused if someone hadn't made a black and white, them vs me kind of comment. One's choices in their aviation careers carries only one correct answer and everyone who doesn't pursue that same course is wrong.

interesting you should say that....I hope you like the 145