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Old 01-15-2016 | 11:47 AM
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A perceived stinginess among management and a very underwhelming reception to "the new American." I think the payrates will be lower than United and Delta's too. Parker might've been better than Smisek, but I'd rather negotiate with Munoz or Anderson in the future.

I could be wrong on this or have an outdated perception, but I think UAL/DAL have more widebody jobs too.

But that being said, yes, most guys would still happily accept a class date at AA.
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Old 01-15-2016 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majo..._United_States

I think there are more than 3 majors. Could be wrong though.

Ok, let me retry that...

3 legacy major carriers that characteristically are known for flying large aircraft and having the best pay and benefits, they are the ones most pilots in the industry aspire to work for. The commonly used definition. Not the wiki version.

Hopefully that's enough qualifiers, lol.
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Old 01-15-2016 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
Ok, let me retry that...

3 legacy major carriers that characteristically are known for flying large aircraft and having the best pay and benefits, they are the ones most pilots in the industry aspire to work for. The commonly used definition. Not the wiki version.

Hopefully that's enough qualifiers, lol.

Well, he's technically right. A major airline is any airline with more than $1 Billion in annual revenues. However, I believe, your intent is commonly understood.


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Old 01-15-2016 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majo..._United_States
I think there are more than 3 majors. Could be wrong though.
There's no way you were actually being serious posting that link.
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Old 01-15-2016 | 01:31 PM
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Would it hurt a new hire to respectfully decline a position at one wholly owned for another? Say someone turned down Envoy for Endeavor, do you think the legacy codeshare would later look unfavorably on that?
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Old 01-15-2016 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Wink
Would it hurt a new hire to respectfully decline a position at one wholly owned for another? Say someone turned down Envoy for Endeavor, do you think the legacy codeshare would later look unfavorably on that?

This is exactly what I'm planning on. Glad to see someone else in the same boat


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Old 01-15-2016 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Wink
Would it hurt a new hire to respectfully decline a position at one wholly owned for another? Say someone turned down Envoy for Endeavor, do you think the legacy codeshare would later look unfavorably on that?
If you choose another job over a certain company, as long as you let them know respectfully that you appreciate the offer but have found something else that better suits you, then you're fine. The company will drop everything on you and you will disappear from their minds and system. When they give people class dates and offers, and then the person is a no show or just disappears, this is when you begin to make lists that you don't want to be on.
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Old 01-15-2016 | 02:38 PM
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It's done all the time. Just as people leave one regional for another, pretty much every single day. The key to success is to be polite and professional. Burned bridges not only hurt you, but others around you sometimes.
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Old 01-15-2016 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BobJenkins
Ok, I'll bite. What's wrong with AA? Why would you not want to fly for them?
This is APC. I would have been more confused if someone hadn't made a black and white, them vs me kind of comment. One's choices in their aviation careers carries only one correct answer and everyone who doesn't pursue that same course is wrong.
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Old 01-15-2016 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingKat
Wouldn't say that. Some of these companies are so desperate they are hiring people once thought to be unemployable (excessive DUIs, etc). However you never want to burn a bridge unless forced to. Always good to be nice to everybody and give proper notice when leaving, or deciding to take another offer. Good will never hurts anybody.

interesting you should say that....I hope you like the 145
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