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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus (Post 2053560)

What do you mean everyone is offering short upgrades??Is xjt, RAH, Envoy, AWAC, or Skywest all quick upgrades?

Most of them and others have shorter upgrades than before. They have flow or have brand new planes coming.

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Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 2053676)

Most of them and others have shorter upgrades than before. They have flow or have brand new planes coming.

No. What about the 50 seaters that united is cutting. That's certainly not going to help whatever regional in terms of upgrade.

Not every one has a flow either.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus (Post 2053679)

No. What about the 50 seaters that united is cutting. That's certainly not going to help whatever regional in terms of upgrade.

Not every one has a flow either.

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Nobody said everyone has a flow.

Exjet guys aren't having any problems moving on are they?

Sorry man, Tsa isn't as competitive anymore in attracting guys.

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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2053260)

Every regional will eventually have some sort of deal for a preferential interview or flow to a mainline partner... The problem is, what happens when by the end of 2016 and into 2017 when there are even less pilots coming to regionals?

The regional days are numbered. Management will prolong it as much as possible, but eventually the smallest airplane with UA colors on it will be the E175 and it'll be flown by United pilots. Ab Initio programs 5-10 years down the road. Additionally, ex-pats at the ME3 are fully vested after 7 years (EK anyway), and may be a little tired of being treated a step above a slave, so there is another source.

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Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 2053512)

I honestly think preferential interviews won't solve anything, not many want to do this job anymore. I think we were the last gen that grew up thinking being an airline pilot is cool. It's not even a highly rated job anymore in career rankings. They'll get coverage for sure but not what they would like.

Understood! And when the only exposure to the industry is on the regional side it's easy to want to throw in the towel. Mainline is a lot different is all I can say, and the fact that all of the job fairs are selling out is proof of that. I would be shocked if there wasn't a major attitude shift when regional pilots are given a guaranteed interview date.

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Originally Posted by 24/48 (Post 2053168)

Not sure what his crystal ball says, but mine says UAX will be at 250-300 hulls in the next 5 years. Mostly of the 70/76 seat variety. Next up for UAL, since our TA passed this morning, will be securing a 100 seat jet with an announcement sometime in '16. For you regional ALPA pilot groups flying UAX, I would expect to see deals worked out a'la Commutair in the near future. We currently have 12,500 pilots and the company wants to be at 16,000 by 2020.

That's great news all around. The ground services contractor at the local regional airport I commute out of just lost their contract with United. Apparently it's all going back in house.