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Old 01-29-2016, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy View Post
That's the exact same way L-XJT has done it since time immemorial except it was called the Initial Line Improvement Window (ILIW). Like you said, a great system in theory. Without any experience with PSA's system, I suspect you run into issues with coverage when trying to drop or trade trips so it's not exactly an anything goes free for all.
No, there are no limits for round 1. You can drop anything or pick anything up and the SAP is first come first serve. Took me a few hours, but for February I'm crediting almost 100 hours while only flying around 80 and I still have 12 days off plus all the days off I needed to have off. All commutable trips. Not too shabby. Round 2 line holders get what is left over, but my round 2 experience was that all of my trips were commutable and I still credited around 85 hours or so with 11-12 days off. Then reserve bids for whatever reserve time slot they can hold and for build-up/composite lines. All in all I'd say having the SAP is a 150% improvement to my quality of life.

Now if we could just get the critical pay issue figured out, it wouldn't be unheard of for pilots to credit 130 hours /month worth of pay and only fly 80 or 85 like it used to be.
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Old 01-29-2016, 04:02 PM
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No. The most you can work without a break is 6 days. So you could do 6 on, 1 off, 6 on, 1 off, 6 on (theoretically). But I don't know if scheduling would allow this.

I'll let a military guy answer your second part.

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If I were bidding reserve, could I bid all my reserve days in a row. So If I am guaranteed 11 days off a month, could I bed reserve for the first 19 days straight in order to guarantee my time off as 11 consecutive days? Just curious as I have not started with an airline yet.

Second question: I'm in the military and trying to figure how drilling as a reservist will work out. If I take 5 days of military leave, and normally I'm guaranteed 75 hours a month. Will I get a schedule that is 5 days shorter and thus prorated for less hours per month of pay? If so, I'm thinking of clumping my days off together so I can drill then and not lose pay from the company.
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Old 01-29-2016, 05:11 PM
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Old 01-29-2016, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy View Post
That's the exact same way L-XJT has done it since time immemorial except it was called the Initial Line Improvement Window (ILIW). Like you said, a great system in theory. Without any experience with PSA's system, I suspect you run into issues with coverage when trying to drop or trade trips so it's not exactly an anything goes free for all.
No, the issue has been technology, ie not working correctly and taking to long to process, long enough where it didn't process during the sap window.
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Old 01-30-2016, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tmckeon79 View Post
If I were bidding reserve, could I bid all my reserve days in a row. So If I am guaranteed 11 days off a month, could I bed reserve for the first 19 days straight in order to guarantee my time off as 11 consecutive days? Just curious as I have not started with an airline yet.

Second question: I'm in the military and trying to figure how drilling as a reservist will work out. If I take 5 days of military leave, and normally I'm guaranteed 75 hours a month. Will I get a schedule that is 5 days shorter and thus prorated for less hours per month of pay? If so, I'm thinking of clumping my days off together so I can drill then and not lose pay from the company.
The way endeavor does it is by giving you two options. A) take your still weekend out of your 11 days off and not take a pay hit. B) maintain your 11 days off, but take a pay hit for every day you're gone. When I was on reserve I took option B, mainly because even as an E-5 I was still making more money on a drill weekend than by being on reserve. Plus, I wanted my days off. Every shop is different, it'd be a good question to ask in an interview.
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No. The most you can work without a break is 6 days. So you could do 6 on, 1 off, 6 on, 1 off, 6 on (theoretically). But I don't know if scheduling would allow this.



I'll let a military guy answer your second part.

I have done this. Since 2 leg commute on a reserve schedule made it impossible to get home and work, I lumped them all together. So I would actually have days home.

There are limits but you submit the request on flick and 20 seconds later get acceptance or denial and the reason.

I have had pbs at another airline and it never worked for me even as a middle seniority guy. Like a lot of items that matter It has a lot to do with the company's Managment.

Without being negative and only 6 months in but PSA has a "friendlier" management culture than the previous regional.


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Old 01-31-2016, 04:58 AM
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for February I'm crediting almost 100 hours while only flying around 80 and I still have 12 days off
Does the 20 hour difference between your block and credit come from min day and deadheads?

When block and credit is the same before the month starts, it usually means you have an efficient schedule.

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Old 01-31-2016, 08:22 PM
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If anyone from Piedmont or AWAC wants to send me a copy of a line schedule that would be appreciated. Fine with me if its a few months old, just want to get an idea of what to expect.
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