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Old 02-08-2007 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ85FO
Precisely...
Im the garmin you just go to the user waypoint page, enter a name for your waypoint. Select the fix you want to REF WPT field (DLF) enter your radial (301) in the RAD field and enter your desired distance (60nm) in the DIS field.

Then hit DIRECT TO and you are LNAVing where you need to go.

I am a little disturbed by your post though, if you had GPS on board why are you commenting about not being able to receive the VOR that far out? The VOR is a waypoint in the database, you do not need to recieve the radio signal to navigate with it.

If you were in 699RK you were filed /G, so that is why you were issued an "RNAV" type waypoint. If you are going to file /G, you should know how to use the RNAV function of your box.

Be careful out there man.
Thanks for the tips. I've been tooling around with the program and this works great. I'm sure if you're going to file /G you should know everything there is about the unit indeed. How many people ever do? I trained with a 430/430 stack and have flown IFR out of here many times and I've never been given anything like that before. Never instructed by anyone about it before. I guess its one of those things you just have to "findout" about somewhere done the road earning that experience.
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Old 02-08-2007 | 05:18 PM
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If you have an HSI and a DME indicator you can actually do this type of thing using just that believe it or not. No GPS required.
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Old 02-08-2007 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Thanks for the tips. I've been tooling around with the program and this works great. I'm sure if you're going to file /G you should know everything there is about the unit indeed. How many people ever do? I trained with a 430/430 stack and have flown IFR out of here many times and I've never been given anything like that before. Never instructed by anyone about it before. I guess its one of those things you just have to "findout" about somewhere done the road earning that experience.
I get clearances like they every few days (in 121). It's pretty common and basic in the real world. I have to wonder about your captain though...he CERTAINLY should have known.
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Old 02-08-2007 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fosters
If you have an HSI and a DME indicator you can actually do this type of thing using just that believe it or not. No GPS required.
How? Does it involve math?
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Old 02-08-2007 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dhc8fo
Umm...this entire post troubles me on many many levels.....
Amen...I'm glad I wasn't in that part of sky today...
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Old 02-08-2007 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
How? Does it involve math?
Sorta, but not hard. You do it on the HSI. Real simple stuff. No trig .
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Old 02-08-2007 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ErikCFII
So this 25K hour pilot you were with wasn't able to explain this simple GPS operation? Who "checked" you out on your first Garmin device? They should have been able to teach you this "direct to a random waypoint" procedure on your first day of GPS usage before the engine even started. It all goes back to lack of thorough instruction. Come on CFIs, don't let your students down...
No I'm sure he could have. But we landed. Spent an hour cleaning out the aircraft. Then went in and talked about several other things. He told me to play around with the software some to figure it out then talk to him tomorrow about it. So I figured I asked here which considering some of the crowd I should have known better. God good should anyone make a mistake I mean the world might as well end! Or perhaps lack of curiosity or scaredness to actually ask deterred you. Anyway Rick things weren't out of control. Flew the plane just fine. Just something that was completely out of the ordinary for me. Exciting actually.

As far as filing /G. Yes he did it but yes I guess I should have known. Ignorance on my part as far as completely knowing all the aspects of my equipment. I had never been instructed nor ever received this kind of instruction before. Had I been flying it alone without the other guy giggling at me while I tried to figure it out I would have simply asked for a vector or even swallowed some pride and said "I don't know". But think of it more as a learning experience.
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Old 02-08-2007 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by fosters
Sorta, but not hard. You do it on the HSI. Real simple stuff. No trig .
I'll have to look that up. Or can you explain it easily?
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Old 02-08-2007 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fosters
Sorta, but not hard. You do it on the HSI. Real simple stuff. No trig .
I can do it easily but had no DME because of distance unless it was on the GPS. The HSI couldn't pickup on VLOC which is the only way I know how to do it.
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Old 02-08-2007 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
I can do it easily but had no DME because of distance unless it was on the GPS. The HSI couldn't pickup on VLOC which is the only way I know how to do it.
DME via the GPS or dme indicator in the cockpit is the same thing. How were you navigating? Was the HSI pointed toward the VOR station?
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