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Old 04-11-2016, 08:52 AM
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Can't say I've ever run into that problem, and I just don't care. We're getting the gas or we're not going to fly. 10 years at this sweatshop will make you like:
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Edit: "Additional fuel burn per 1,000 pounds payload is 13 pph." So on a 2 hour flight we're burning in the neighborhood of 2 extra gallons to add 500 pounds and not be in on the fringe of reserve fuel and having to "unable" speed restrictions above max economy. I thought everyone was making money right now.
It's not about the burn on an RJ it's about the fuel cost at the outstation. It's why you typically tanker in fuel to outstations from hubs. On the CR2, the extra burn per 1,000 lbs was around 50 lbs. It's negligible and I completely agree with you. But as an extreme example the fuel on Martha's Vineyard was over $7/gal. To add 500 lbs is over $500 on a single flight. That is a lot of money if the fuel isn't needed whatsoever. Remember we're running a business and yes, I know, more fuel = better, but you have to balance legal/safe/cost effective as well. This isn't a club airplane on your personal time.

We had an ex-UAL guy come in and talk to us about fuel planning when AWAC started to cut back significantly (to give you an idea, we went from 3000#+ on arrival to around 2100#). He basically said no one is going to refuse giving you fuel. Just have a reason for it. Min fuel on the CR2 was 1700#, that was your 45 min reserve. The company wanted us to land at 2100#, or around 55 mins of fuel on board at touchdown.

I do agree with you, their cuts went too far, and 2300# was probably a better idea. US Airways closely monitored diversions and didn't see a large uptick in them at all, or so they said.

At AA we routinely landed with the equivalent of what would be around 3100# on the CR2. I have read this will be coming down maybe 400# or so over the next couple months, which probably will be fine. We normally land with a ton of extra fuel, I was wondering when cuts would start to be made.
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