Leaving one Regional for Another....
05-09-2016, 06:29 PM
#21
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.Commut Air - interview with united could be good but tons of growth in the mean time. Ca upgrade will be coming down. Small family feel airline so youd get to know your fellow crewmembers. People that go there seem to love it!
^^^^^ Yup...looks like the best opportunities all around right now. Check it out.
^^^^^ Yup...looks like the best opportunities all around right now. Check it out.
05-09-2016, 06:32 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by amcnd
^SkyWest long upgrade?? Its below 3 years and we go from 45 Erj's to 104 in the next 12 months. Funny in 1999 5+year upgrade was normal. Now everyone is complaining its not 2 months.... Its all about QOL... And were you want to live..
However friends there for 2+ years say they're about 3 years away from an upgrade.
05-09-2016, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Learjet84
Fair enough. Sadly the guys that are complaining of upgrades live where they want and don't want to move for the upgrade so maybe that wasn't too fair.
However friends there for 2+ years say they're about 3 years away from an upgrade.
However friends there for 2+ years say they're about 3 years away from an upgrade.
05-09-2016, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by spikemath
Been a good choice for me so far. Had the option to go to Compass as well but it came down to choices of base. Both seemed like pretty decent options. There's a lot of movement in the bases, and you can pretty much get to any within six months of starting, most in less time. If you do end up here do not choose the 175, and pretty much everyone in the SkyWest thread will agree; you'll never fly.
I don't suppose your DTW base will be the 175 base... if so sign me up!
05-09-2016, 08:11 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by Learjet84
If you were going to change regionals I would look at the following...
1. Flow. Yeah we get it flow may or may not work... we've beat that to death. But wouldnt going to a regional with the chance that flow does work be better than going to one without that option if you're going to be doing the same thing at both regionals anyways?
2. Upgrade time. Being a captain isnt important but the money that comes with it sure is!
3. Quality of life. Chose a regional thats growing like crazy, little reserve time, close to where you want to live.
My top 3 choices would be
1.Piedmont - Fastest flow out of all 3 american regionals, most growth, quick ca upgrade... as soon as you have the time. contract allows for TONS of money above that horrible hourly rate.
2.Compass - all those guys and gals seem really happy. quick upgrade and west coast being junior is really nice. Delta backed so probably will be around a long time. Upgrade is getting longer there so I'd go quick.
3.Commut Air - interview with united could be good but tons of growth in the mean time. Ca upgrade will be coming down. Small family feel airline so youd get to know your fellow crewmembers. People that go there seem to love it!
Places I'd avoid.
1. Skywest. Long upgrade, no contract for protection. (Though their size is appealing for safety)
2. Envoy. That seems like a mess with old flow and new flow and longest flow time with the new american deal. ca upgrade is way too long. pilots seem bitter.
3. Endeavor. Really? That signing bonus? And the pilots dont realize how badly they're getting worked over by management. Besides, anyone who does math will realize you can basically make what you're making at Endeavor by going to Piedmont, Compass, or maaaybe Comut Air... Hence why they're my top three.
1. Flow. Yeah we get it flow may or may not work... we've beat that to death. But wouldnt going to a regional with the chance that flow does work be better than going to one without that option if you're going to be doing the same thing at both regionals anyways?
2. Upgrade time. Being a captain isnt important but the money that comes with it sure is!
3. Quality of life. Chose a regional thats growing like crazy, little reserve time, close to where you want to live.
My top 3 choices would be
1.Piedmont - Fastest flow out of all 3 american regionals, most growth, quick ca upgrade... as soon as you have the time. contract allows for TONS of money above that horrible hourly rate.
2.Compass - all those guys and gals seem really happy. quick upgrade and west coast being junior is really nice. Delta backed so probably will be around a long time. Upgrade is getting longer there so I'd go quick.
3.Commut Air - interview with united could be good but tons of growth in the mean time. Ca upgrade will be coming down. Small family feel airline so youd get to know your fellow crewmembers. People that go there seem to love it!
Places I'd avoid.
1. Skywest. Long upgrade, no contract for protection. (Though their size is appealing for safety)
2. Envoy. That seems like a mess with old flow and new flow and longest flow time with the new american deal. ca upgrade is way too long. pilots seem bitter.
3. Endeavor. Really? That signing bonus? And the pilots dont realize how badly they're getting worked over by management. Besides, anyone who does math will realize you can basically make what you're making at Endeavor by going to Piedmont, Compass, or maaaybe Comut Air... Hence why they're my top three.
That signing bonus is not paid just first year... The second year it is paid again, and the third. After that, it's up for renegotiation, true.. but prior to that it's part of the pay. How are we getting worked over any worse than any other regional with a contract that has seen numerous improvements. We now have 100% DH pay, Hotels in base for commuters if an overnight cancels, positive space from home to training (not from base), positive space to home airport instead of base if it's the last leg of a trip (this one I believe has some restrictions but I live in base so I don't use it), if you care to go to Delta you get a guaranteed interview (granted it's been a coin flip for guys but A.K. is going to either retire or die some day...) Plenty of other things but you get the idea....
Now granted the down side is you will spend your reserve time sitting reserve not just for Endeavor but the entire Delta system (largely GoJet and ExpressJet, but everyone else, even mainline occasionally) though for new hires, that time is short.
05-09-2016, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Learjet84
3. Endeavor. Really? That signing bonus? And the pilots dont realize how badly they're getting worked over by management. Besides, anyone who does math will realize you can basically make what you're making at Endeavor by going to Piedmont, Compass, or maaaybe Comut Air... Hence why they're my top three.
So, please inform me, what is not to like about Endeavor? This isn't the same 9E from a few years back...
05-10-2016, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
SJS got its hooks in ya?
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