Leaving one Regional for Another....
#31
Are you high? Endeavor is one of the best places to be right now. First year and I am set to gross $65K NO ONE can touch that. Unlike some other carriers that doesn't drop off after year 1. 100% deadhead, 150% for all open time, 150% for assigned credit over 85, great work rules for a regional, 2 month reserve, and actual 2 year upgrade (just upgraded an April 2014 hire). All that plus an opportunity to interview at Delta.
So, please inform me, what is not to like about Endeavor? This isn't the same 9E from a few years back...
So, please inform me, what is not to like about Endeavor? This isn't the same 9E from a few years back...
It's a fine place to work I'm sure, but people on here are just saying it's pretty much like everywhere else...and they're right. Most people don't care that you get a little more money, there's more to life than that. It's not that different than anywhere else, and each place has pros and cons.
They're not attacking you personally, just stating facts and giving opinions...we all have that right.
#32
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Well, if you like money it's not a bad place to go. To each their own. (I like money so I went to 9E and I don't regret it.)
There were a few other points that he stated I take issue with.. Saying that Compass is "Delta backed" and that Skywest isn't a good place to go to... I think that's where "are you high?" might have been an appropriate response.
They're all regionals. Domicile, reserve length, pay, upgrade are your concerns not necessarily in that order.
There were a few other points that he stated I take issue with.. Saying that Compass is "Delta backed" and that Skywest isn't a good place to go to... I think that's where "are you high?" might have been an appropriate response.
They're all regionals. Domicile, reserve length, pay, upgrade are your concerns not necessarily in that order.
#33
Well, if you like money it's not a bad place to go. To each their own. (I like money so I went to 9E and I don't regret it.)
There were a few other points that he stated I take issue with.. Saying that Compass is "Delta backed" and that Skywest isn't a good place to go to... I think that's where "are you high?" might have been an appropriate response.
They're all regionals. Domicile, reserve length, pay, upgrade are your concerns not necessarily in that order.
There were a few other points that he stated I take issue with.. Saying that Compass is "Delta backed" and that Skywest isn't a good place to go to... I think that's where "are you high?" might have been an appropriate response.
They're all regionals. Domicile, reserve length, pay, upgrade are your concerns not necessarily in that order.
#34
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Man, you guys sure get offended when someone should even HINT at the notion that working for Endeavor is not the pinnacle (no pun intended) of the regional airline world. Do they pay a bonus for sticking up for them or something?
It's a fine place to work I'm sure, but people on here are just saying it's pretty much like everywhere else...and they're right. Most people don't care that you get a little more money, there's more to life than that. It's not that different than anywhere else, and each place has pros and cons.
They're not attacking you personally, just stating facts and giving opinions...we all have that right.
It's a fine place to work I'm sure, but people on here are just saying it's pretty much like everywhere else...and they're right. Most people don't care that you get a little more money, there's more to life than that. It's not that different than anywhere else, and each place has pros and cons.
They're not attacking you personally, just stating facts and giving opinions...we all have that right.
Why would you do the same job for less? Unless you lived in a domicile.
#35
Why would I do the same job for less? For a couple grand for a year or two? Seriously? That list has been mentioned at length just up the page and numerous other pages on this board. You even answered yourself about domicile. It's not all about money my friend. After you've been through 6 airlines, like myself, and had 4 furloughs and 2 that no longer exist, then you'll get it...maybe. I'm starting to wonder though. Good luck.
#36
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Why would I do the same job for less? For a couple grand for a year or two? Seriously? That list has been mentioned at length just up the page and numerous other pages on this board. You even answered yourself about domicile. It's not all about money my friend. After you've been through 6 airlines, like myself, and had 4 furloughs and 2 that no longer exist, then you'll get it...maybe. I'm starting to wonder though. Good luck.
Yes, I gave one example of why possible a person would go to a
lower paying airline.
Obviously as you have found out, stability is very important.
#39
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If you were going to change regionals I would look at the following...
1. Flow. Yeah we get it flow may or may not work... we've beat that to death. But wouldnt going to a regional with the chance that flow does work be better than going to one without that option if you're going to be doing the same thing at both regionals anyways?
2. Upgrade time. Being a captain isnt important but the money that comes with it sure is!
3. Quality of life. Chose a regional thats growing like crazy, little reserve time, close to where you want to live.
My top 3 choices would be
1.Piedmont - Fastest flow out of all 3 american regionals, most growth, quick ca upgrade... as soon as you have the time. contract allows for TONS of money above that horrible hourly rate.
2.Compass - all those guys and gals seem really happy. quick upgrade and west coast being junior is really nice. Delta backed so probably will be around a long time. Upgrade is getting longer there so I'd go quick.
3.Commut Air - interview with united could be good but tons of growth in the mean time. Ca upgrade will be coming down. Small family feel airline so youd get to know your fellow crewmembers. People that go there seem to love it!
Places I'd avoid.
1. Skywest. Long upgrade, no contract for protection. (Though their size is appealing for safety)
2. Envoy. That seems like a mess with old flow and new flow and longest flow time with the new american deal. ca upgrade is way too long. pilots seem bitter.
3. Endeavor. Really? That signing bonus? And the pilots dont realize how badly they're getting worked over by management. Besides, anyone who does math will realize you can basically make what you're making at Endeavor by going to Piedmont, Compass, or maaaybe Comut Air... Hence why they're my top three.
1. Flow. Yeah we get it flow may or may not work... we've beat that to death. But wouldnt going to a regional with the chance that flow does work be better than going to one without that option if you're going to be doing the same thing at both regionals anyways?
2. Upgrade time. Being a captain isnt important but the money that comes with it sure is!
3. Quality of life. Chose a regional thats growing like crazy, little reserve time, close to where you want to live.
My top 3 choices would be
1.Piedmont - Fastest flow out of all 3 american regionals, most growth, quick ca upgrade... as soon as you have the time. contract allows for TONS of money above that horrible hourly rate.
2.Compass - all those guys and gals seem really happy. quick upgrade and west coast being junior is really nice. Delta backed so probably will be around a long time. Upgrade is getting longer there so I'd go quick.
3.Commut Air - interview with united could be good but tons of growth in the mean time. Ca upgrade will be coming down. Small family feel airline so youd get to know your fellow crewmembers. People that go there seem to love it!
Places I'd avoid.
1. Skywest. Long upgrade, no contract for protection. (Though their size is appealing for safety)
2. Envoy. That seems like a mess with old flow and new flow and longest flow time with the new american deal. ca upgrade is way too long. pilots seem bitter.
3. Endeavor. Really? That signing bonus? And the pilots dont realize how badly they're getting worked over by management. Besides, anyone who does math will realize you can basically make what you're making at Endeavor by going to Piedmont, Compass, or maaaybe Comut Air... Hence why they're my top three.
Please explain how CompAss is "Delta backed"?
They were sold to Hulas, and have the same ownership as Gojet and TSA.
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