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Old 05-14-2016, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dewpoint View Post
I've been at Republic about 10 months and already made more than $50k. It can be done easily.

That's counting gross wages, per diem, and 401(k) benefits. Should be close to $60k first year.
OK...per diem as wages...whatever, if you want to count that who cares...but 401k contributions are NOT income, dear God, is this how far we've fallen?!?
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Old 05-14-2016, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by WMUFlyboy1 View Post
Endeavor isn't going anywhere. Both the company and union agree that the bonus will be extended beyond 2018, there is currently just a disagreement on how it will be paid. The union wants it rolled into pay rates while the company wants it as a bonus still. There isn't a doubt that it will continue, just HOW it will continue.
Is this in writing anywhere or perhaps implied?
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Old 05-14-2016, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by aviationfrk View Post
Is this in writing anywhere or perhaps implied?
Roll it into pay rates.. Bonus programs come and go. Pay rates don't..
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Old 05-14-2016, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User View Post
OK...per diem as wages...whatever, if you want to count that who cares...but 401k contributions are NOT income, dear God, is this how far we've fallen?!?
Depending on how you spend when you are on the road, per diem could be a gain. I try to spend 40-50% of my per diem as a rule and use the rest towards paying down any debt or adding to our savings. For me that is 250-350 per month tax free I haven't spent a dime for.
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Old 05-14-2016, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd View Post
Depending on how you spend when you are on the road, per diem could be a gain. I try to spend 40-50% of my per diem as a rule and use the rest towards paying down any debt or adding to our savings. For me that is 250-350 per month tax free I haven't spent a dime for.
Per diem is a great benefit if not spent, I spend around $5/day on average...but this guy was including his company 401k contributions in his 'income' figure, did you even read what my post was about?
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Old 05-14-2016, 02:29 PM
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[QUOTE=Name User;2129118]Per diem is a great benefit if not spent, I spend around $5/day on average...but this guy was including his company 401k contributions in his 'income' figure, did you even read what my post was about?[/QU

Yes, of course I read it. It seemed you were taking a dim view of per diem as income as well. We agree that it's circumstantial, as long as you don't become the Wolf of Wall Street on overnights. I also agree that company 401k additions shouldn't be counted. That is income for later on...takes time to become vested, etc...
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Old 05-14-2016, 02:36 PM
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The bigger point is the chart simply shows the pay floor at each regional. You have the potential to earn much more at each and every one of them. It doesn't reflect ceilings.


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Old 05-15-2016, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd View Post
I also agree that company 401k additions shouldn't be counted. That is income for later on...takes time to become vested, etc...
I am 100% vested. Anyway, subtracting per diem and not counting the benefits, I will still make more than $50k in the first 12 months.
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Old 05-15-2016, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by daOldMan View Post
Over $100,000 for the first 3 years is now the baseline industry standard.

With the retention bonus at the AA WO regionals, all current FO's will make over $120,000 in 3 years.

Closer it $155k if you keep credit high each month and include per diem.
This seems like a lot but it's not. Don't be fooled by the big #'s, remember there is the denominator component that the regionals will use to whittle away your earnings.

Also, it's best you delve deeper than wages. Look at business models, who their customers are, current business practices, work rules, union vs. non-Union, bio's of leadership, history of pay negotiations, unity of pilot group, trip mix, schedules, benefits, 401k's, success of training departments, etc.
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver View Post
This is one thing that attracts me to this company. Not to crazy about the CRJ flying though.
You would not fit in at Endeavor anyway.
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