Regional airline CEO warns of pilot shortage
05-13-2016, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MartinBishop
Why do the unions let them get away with paying so little? Isn't that what they are there to prevent?
05-13-2016, 08:02 PM
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There is no shortage of pilots.
05-13-2016, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
ALPA is very well aware of the scam of having regional pilots subsidize wages & benefits at the legacies.
Do you think it's a coincidence ALPA signed off on all these concessionary contracts while simultaneously seeing huge gains in legacy compensation during the same timeframe.
Its the tacit, unspoken thing everyone "knows" but never talks about: the overall negotiating strategy at National is:
1) Lock in cheap wages at regionals to save money on feed
2) Go get the money they just saved mgmt by signing off on all the crappy TAs at their regional sweatshops
3) Mainline gets more, we get less
It's a perverse Dickensian cycle that ALPA National has coordinated over the last decade or two
Do you think it's a coincidence ALPA signed off on all these concessionary contracts while simultaneously seeing huge gains in legacy compensation during the same timeframe.
Its the tacit, unspoken thing everyone "knows" but never talks about: the overall negotiating strategy at National is:
1) Lock in cheap wages at regionals to save money on feed
2) Go get the money they just saved mgmt by signing off on all the crappy TAs at their regional sweatshops
3) Mainline gets more, we get less
It's a perverse Dickensian cycle that ALPA National has coordinated over the last decade or two
So your saying low pay at the regionals is the fault of the unions?
05-13-2016, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MartinBishop
So your saying low pay at the regionals is the fault of the unions?
05-13-2016, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JetDoc
He is. ALPA has a direct conflict of interest by representing mainline AND regional pilots. Anyone who thinks that mainline would earn what they do if regional pilots earned what they deserved for doing the same job at the same airports in the same weather is either in denial, delusional or both. Regional pilots indeed do subsidize mainline wages and that fact lays squarely at the feet of ALPA by giving up scope for a few pieces of silver and the fact that their over inflated egos didn't want to fly "little jets" 20 years ago.
If you account for number of seats the pay rates are much closer in reality.
05-14-2016, 04:39 AM
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Best line from the story;
"The problem isn't a shortage of pilots. The problem is a shortage of honest airline management executives."
"The problem isn't a shortage of pilots. The problem is a shortage of honest airline management executives."
05-14-2016, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinBishop
So your saying low pay at the regionals is the fault of the unions?
05-14-2016, 05:21 AM
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Age 70 is coming weather we want it or not
05-14-2016, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
If you account for number of seats the pay rates are much closer in reality.
If I fly 5 legs with 76 pax on each leg I have carried 380 pax. How many seats does a 777 have? Seems that I carry more pax, for more cycles, for less money.
05-14-2016, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pagey
Explain this?
If I fly 5 legs with 76 pax on each leg I have carried 380 pax. How many seats does a 777 have? Seems that I carry more pax, for more cycles, for less money.
If I fly 5 legs with 76 pax on each leg I have carried 380 pax. How many seats does a 777 have? Seems that I carry more pax, for more cycles, for less money.
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