Regional airline CEO warns of pilot shortage
05-14-2016, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Fpmx772
Age 70 is coming weather we want it or not
05-14-2016, 06:51 AM
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That CEO is so clueless, they're still stuck in the mode that pilots will do anything to get to a major job. They still think that there's a bunch of kids out there looking starry eyed up at the sky. Nobody wants to do this job anymore because it's been stripped of any benefit. Even the lower tier majors look a lot like Regionals with bigger planes fighting over making a fair wage. The kids aren't stupid, they know that the nice view won't pay their skyrocketing debt. The only way to get pilots back is to raise pay.
05-14-2016, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
That CEO is so clueless, they're still stuck in the mode that pilots will do anything to get to a major job. They still think that there's a bunch of kids out there looking starry eyed up at the sky. Nobody wants to do this job anymore because it's been stripped of any benefit. Even the lower tier majors look a lot like Regionals with bigger planes fighting over making a fair wage. The kids aren't stupid, they know that the nice view won't pay their skyrocketing debt. The only way to get pilots back is to raise pay.
05-14-2016, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe
That won't help staffing. If it does come, I am quitting. I don't think I would be alone either.
I'm sure the lobby is cranking up in Congress as we speak. Considering other countries have made the move (Canada, Japan), its only a matter of time before we follow.
05-14-2016, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tlove482
Most pilots will. I'm amazed at what pilots will do to get flight time to have a chance at the majors.
05-14-2016, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Admittedly it kicks the can down the road for another 5 years. However, to the average Regional manager, that's 5 more years of paying low wages.
I'm sure the lobby is cranking up in Congress as we speak. Considering other countries have made the move (Canada, Japan), its only a matter of time before we follow.
I'm sure the lobby is cranking up in Congress as we speak. Considering other countries have made the move (Canada, Japan), its only a matter of time before we follow.
05-14-2016, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Admittedly it kicks the can down the road for another 5 years. However, to the average Regional manager, that's 5 more years of paying low wages.
I'm sure the lobby is cranking up in Congress as we speak. Considering other countries have made the move (Canada, Japan), its only a matter of time before we follow.
I'm sure the lobby is cranking up in Congress as we speak. Considering other countries have made the move (Canada, Japan), its only a matter of time before we follow.
True, but also two of the most healthy countries on the planet, in comparison to the US. Iv seen dozens of US pilots that won't even fit in a normal coach/Eco comfort seat without bulging into the seat next to them. Doubt they'd make it to 70 at all. Let alone work with a Class 1 medical. I'm not trying to be a jerk, just stating the facts. Our country has health problems as a whole.
At the same time I think many can and would work to 70. But out of the amount of pilots who are even close to 65, minus the ones that can't get a medical, and those who choose not to continue, would it really help? Maybe, but even less of an effective bandaid on said gushing wound the 65 age increase "bandaid" was meant to heal.
05-14-2016, 01:22 PM
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There is no pilot shortage.
And this from personal experience
Just new wine in old bottles( regionals now and then)
And this from personal experience
Just new wine in old bottles( regionals now and then)
05-14-2016, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
If you account for number of seats the pay rates are much closer in reality.
CRJ900
12 $139
11 $138
10 $137
9 $136
8 $135
7 $134
6 $133
5 $132
4 $131
3 $130
2 $129
1 $128
Regional pilots do indeed subsidize mainline wages and that's the way ALPA wants it.
05-14-2016, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
I've been saying this for a while. How can American own, manage, AND keep profits from "separate" companies paying lower payscales for pilots while they already have a contracted union labor force?
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