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MacrossJet 05-24-2016 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Hou757 (Post 2134334)
You are correct about things being very stagnant right now. However, with the United Career pathway you will be seeing LOTS of movement beginning around September. Reserve has been very lengthy due to lack of upgrades but this will also begin to drop early next year as the movement begins to happen. This is a good time to get on.

Why does the CPP, equal movement? How many guys will be leaving September?

Hou757 05-24-2016 06:43 AM

Our problem as been we've had many more junior Fo"s leaving than senior captains. United has said they will begin taking our pilots this fall as part of the program. I forget the specifics of amount but I believe its around 15-20 a month if not more. These will be the most senior folks creating upward movement.

Ifly4u2c 05-24-2016 06:48 AM

what was the DOH of the last EWR pilot to hold a line??? any idea???

hc0fitted 05-24-2016 06:53 AM

Mid 2011 hire at XJT ERJ side . Wouldn't recommend anyone going there . Don't know anyone else who actually works there that isn't a recruiter that would recommend anyone going there . The United Pathway Progarm is just a carrot to try and get new hires throug the door . It's just an interview . United already hires plenty of XJT guys as it is . It won't create any major movement off the top . Upgrade time will still be close to 9 years . There is no current growth or single list in the near future .

Hou757 05-24-2016 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Ifly4u2c (Post 2134353)
what was the DOH of the last EWR pilot to hold a line??? any idea???

Looks like March 2014. Might be lower than that with a few others bidding relief/reserve lines. I would think some 2015 hires are getting relief lines.

Hou757 05-24-2016 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by hc0fitted (Post 2134356)
Mid 2011 hire at XJT ERJ side . Wouldn't recommend anyone going there . Don't know anyone else who actually works there that isn't a recruiter that would recommend anyone going there . The United Pathway Progarm is just a carrot to try and get new hires throug the door . It's just an interview . United already hires plenty of XJT guys as it is . It won't create any major movement off the top . Upgrade time will still be close to 9 years . There is no current growth or single list in the near future .

Explain how this will not create movement?

iFlyRC 05-24-2016 07:04 AM

Projections are a dangerous thing, go with a company that has consistent movement, historically low times on reserve, and quick upgrades.

Hou757 05-24-2016 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by iFlyRC (Post 2134368)
Projections are a dangerous thing, go with a company that has consistent movement, historically low times on reserve, and quick upgrades.

Just don't let the airline you choose with quick upgrades/reserve be a bottom feeder with horrible contract/pay with no improvements in sight...

hc0fitted 05-24-2016 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Hou757 (Post 2134363)
Explain how this will not create movement?

Have you read the details on the United Pathway Program ? Flow through programs create minimal movement, this isn't even that . It's an interview . How much movement do you really think it's going to create ?

iFlyRC 05-24-2016 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by Hou757 (Post 2134382)
Just don't let the airline you choose with quick upgrades/reserve be a bottom feeder with horrible contract/pay with no improvements in sight...

I would say that is bad advice... Go to Envoy, sit reserve for four years, no upgrade in sight... Mesa, you are off reserve in 6 months or less depending on base, and upgrading when you have 1000 121 time. You tell me where you would be happier? The gold standard or the bottom feeder?
This attitude has shot more pilots in the foot than any other...


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