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p1ayn 02-17-2007 07:52 AM

FlyrNY I have to agree with you. Absolutely no offense to young guys coming in thru some sort of program. But for the industry's health and maintaining some integrity making pilots unique and respected, that is what we need. Unfortunately, as they say times have changed and we are the local bus drivers now racing to the bottom in salary and respect by passengers and management. Again this is meant in no way to bash the lower time guys having the oppurtunity to come into the industry, its the just reality, and because they lower mins, you have the revolving door. Management knows this and has the leverage to lower salaries and QOL. As they say , the prestige is gone unfortunately.

supercell86 02-17-2007 08:20 AM

Oh brother!! EVERYTHING is this world is cyclical, including this airline industry, so no worries guys. Come on, let's just go to the bar drinks are on me!!!

p1ayn 02-17-2007 08:21 AM

Thats the best idea I have heard all week!! :) Goose an tonic plzz

supercell86 02-17-2007 09:04 AM

yes sir!!!

Short Bus Drive 02-17-2007 09:13 AM

Jack on the "rocks", with a Miller Lite

p1ayn 02-17-2007 09:54 AM

AHHH the good ol days...:)

flynavyj 02-17-2007 09:14 PM

I saw it stated a couple times that what needs to happen isn't lowering the minimums, but raising the pay...i might be willing to agree with both, but a question, how is raising the pay going to help the company cope with the problem of "enough airplanes, not enough pilots" I have a hard time believing that more qualified pilots will simply come out of the woodworks because pay was bumped up, i do however agree that all of us already here would be happier. And it would give the 250hr kids even more excitement to want to join the ranks.

PS-

I'll have a drink w/ you guys.

Ellen 02-17-2007 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by tlove482 (Post 119704)
It's funny how airlines will lower standards instead of raising pay.

I have been saying that all along

Slice 02-17-2007 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 120198)
I saw it stated a couple times that what needs to happen isn't lowering the minimums, but raising the pay...i might be willing to agree with both, but a question, how is raising the pay going to help the company cope with the problem of "enough airplanes, not enough pilots" I have a hard time believing that more qualified pilots will simply come out of the woodworks because pay was bumped up, i do however agree that all of us already here would be happier. And it would give the 250hr kids even more excitement to want to join the ranks.

PS-

I'll have a drink w/ you guys.


I think it's more about attracting more qualified applicants. I've signed up for the NYPD test 4 times over the last several years but never took the test. Why? Because I can't afford to live on 30K a year, let alone in NY. Raise that to 50-60K and I may have taken the plunge. I think there are good people out there who can't afford the lifestyle change. It's definitely a young(single, no wife/kids, or rich wife) or rich man's game these days as a newbie.

wild4theuniform 02-17-2007 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by Slice (Post 120213)
I think it's more about attracting more qualified applicants. I've signed up for the NYPD test 4 times over the last several years but never took the test. Why? Because I can't afford to live on 30K a year, let along in NY. Raise that to 50-60K and I may have taken the plunge. I think there are good people out there who can't afford the lifestyle change. It's definitely a young(single, no wife/kids, or rich wife) or rich man's game these days as a newbie.

Don't let the salary fool you. I live in NYC and it's funny but they always seem to have the biggest houses, boats and take more than 1 nice vacation a year...All while having 3-4 kids. HMM, I wonder how they do THAT. :rolleyes:

Besides, Slice dear, you're not arrogant enough to be one of them. ;)
Stick to being a pilot. :D

Now, if you want to be a fireman........


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