Regional Hiring Already Slowing?
09-28-2016 | 01:20 AM
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Regional Hiring Already Slowing?
What you're missing is that there is now a huge qualitative difference in newhires of late. Yes, SkyWest is filling classes, but often with people it never would've hired in the "Camielle era". They've lowered their standards and eliminated much of the interview process in order to get as many bodies in the door. Because airlines that *can* continue to staff flying will win more of it from those that can't.
09-28-2016 | 03:37 AM
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What airline is actually hitting their hiring targets? I think even Endeavor isn't getting the full number each month they want. The AAG WO'd obviously haven't even been close this year. The new bonuses will help but other than the first few probably being full I think we'll settle into the 15-20 range per class after that. Skywest is hiring a bunch but they are such a large regional that they need nearly that much hiring just to keep up with attrition.
And as someone said earlier, filling your class does no good with a third to half of each class is sub-par and washes out of training.
And as someone said earlier, filling your class does no good with a third to half of each class is sub-par and washes out of training.
09-28-2016 | 04:04 AM
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What airline is actually hitting their hiring targets? I think even Endeavor isn't getting the full number each month they want. The AAG WO'd obviously haven't even been close this year. The new bonuses will help but other than the first few probably being full I think we'll settle into the 15-20 range per class after that. Skywest is hiring a bunch but they are such a large regional that they need nearly that much hiring just to keep up with attrition.
And as someone said earlier, filling your class does no good with a third to half of each class is sub-par and washes out of training.
And as someone said earlier, filling your class does no good with a third to half of each class is sub-par and washes out of training.
09-28-2016 | 04:17 AM
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I work at a Collegiate Aviation Program and we consistently host Regionals to make presentations and have them interview our CFIs. From everybody I've talked to as recently as last week, it's not slowing down. Numbers in classes are decent but nobody is keeping up with attrition or meeting hiring goals. Well below their goals of 600 in some cases (maybe half of that met this year) at one.
09-28-2016 | 04:57 AM
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09-28-2016 | 05:06 AM
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I'm slightly playing devil's advocate here , because I'm naturally skeptical.
I haven't seen the data on new commercial certificates but I thought it was 5-6k/yr( granted some of those are foreigners training here maybe 35%?). How much more is the demand. Isn't it like 4k/yr?
(Editted my above post as well)
I haven't seen the data on new commercial certificates but I thought it was 5-6k/yr( granted some of those are foreigners training here maybe 35%?). How much more is the demand. Isn't it like 4k/yr?
(Editted my above post as well)
09-28-2016 | 05:11 AM
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I guess I'm lucky there's so much hiring going on.
I just think classes of 100 at skywest or 30-50 at most the regionals month after month is not consistent with the notion of a labor "shortage". It's a marketing tactic by the industry in collusion with the media to ensure a steady supply. While the pool may more limited than in generations past, it seems to me it is by no means drying up. Maybe my opinion will change when I get to 121 and see for myself.or Maybe 80 a month at skywest for several years is just a drop in the bucket? I think 40k was the threshold for new cfi and part 135 entrants , bucketlisters and people returning to the industry.
Seems to be majors hiring ramps up, attrition ramps up and then we get all crazy about a shortage of regional pilots but that ramps up and they come out of the woodwork. The RAA presentation I saw did say only 60 percent of hiring goals were met, so I could be way off kilter, or they could be fudging numbers to further the case of repealing the 1500hr rule.
I was sugessting mention of.the word "shortage" is highly charged and does not serve the piloting profession so to speak
I just think classes of 100 at skywest or 30-50 at most the regionals month after month is not consistent with the notion of a labor "shortage". It's a marketing tactic by the industry in collusion with the media to ensure a steady supply. While the pool may more limited than in generations past, it seems to me it is by no means drying up. Maybe my opinion will change when I get to 121 and see for myself.or Maybe 80 a month at skywest for several years is just a drop in the bucket? I think 40k was the threshold for new cfi and part 135 entrants , bucketlisters and people returning to the industry.
Seems to be majors hiring ramps up, attrition ramps up and then we get all crazy about a shortage of regional pilots but that ramps up and they come out of the woodwork. The RAA presentation I saw did say only 60 percent of hiring goals were met, so I could be way off kilter, or they could be fudging numbers to further the case of repealing the 1500hr rule.
I was sugessting mention of.the word "shortage" is highly charged and does not serve the piloting profession so to speak
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