Pilot arrested
#31
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"Irresponsible" is just one the many unpleasant symptoms of alcohol/drug addiction. This guys life is gonna change and I hope he is giving the opportunity to turn things around. He is gonna need help and not criticism. I hope he gets the help he needs.
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One less loser lifer 10 year first officer in Salt Lake. No sympathy for this idiot. If you are stupid enough to throw away your entire career and life for a night in South Dakota, then you deserve exactly what happened to him. He is an embarrassment to our community as pilots, just as the others before him.
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If by perfect you mean reporting for work sober every day of your career, I'd say 99.5% of professional pilots are.
Why should this person be shown any compassion? Should drunk drivers who've killed people behind the wheel be shown compassion?
This guy knew he was tanked when he showed up for work. This is the primary issue.
These types of occurrences give all pilots a bad rap and puts us under even more scrutiny. Compassion? I think not.
Why should this person be shown any compassion? Should drunk drivers who've killed people behind the wheel be shown compassion?
This guy knew he was tanked when he showed up for work. This is the primary issue.
These types of occurrences give all pilots a bad rap and puts us under even more scrutiny. Compassion? I think not.
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One less loser lifer 10 year first officer in Salt Lake. No sympathy for this idiot. If you are stupid enough to throw away your entire career and life for a night in South Dakota, then you deserve exactly what happened to him. He is an embarrassment to our community as pilots, just as the others before him.
Yeah, he made some horrible choices but there's not one person on this board that knows what has been going on in his life.
I say the mods should lock this thread up.
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If by perfect you mean reporting for work sober every day of your career, I'd say 99.5% of professional pilots are.
Why should this person be shown any compassion? Should drunk drivers who've killed people behind the wheel be shown compassion?
This guy knew he was tanked when he showed up for work. This is the primary issue.
These types of occurrences give all pilots a bad rap and puts us under even more scrutiny. Compassion? I think not.
Why should this person be shown any compassion? Should drunk drivers who've killed people behind the wheel be shown compassion?
This guy knew he was tanked when he showed up for work. This is the primary issue.
These types of occurrences give all pilots a bad rap and puts us under even more scrutiny. Compassion? I think not.
#38
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One less loser lifer 10 year first officer in Salt Lake. No sympathy for this idiot. If you are stupid enough to throw away your entire career and life for a night in South Dakota, then you deserve exactly what happened to him. He is an embarrassment to our community as pilots, just as the others before him.
I wonder what it's like to be perfect? Show some compassion. I hope he can get the help he needs. FYI, the naked pilot from the Harrisburg fiasco is now at Delta. People make mistakes. The trick is learning from them an humbling yourself. It would seem you still haven't learned that lesson
But the memo's been out now for a long time. Anybody who drinks more than a few or inside 8 hours really should know they need to call HIMS...before they get caught.
Just because you're addicted doesn't mean you're stupid. Smart enough to fly a jet? Smart enough to read all those emails and memos. Getting help is easy, you just have to decide to do it.
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Let's not confuse someone's illness with my freedom. My sensitivity on this topic expired a number of years ago. EVERYBODY has seen the emails, memos, and the presentation in recurrent.
#40
I was given percocets after surgery. They made me feel extremely well, and when I realized that I wasn't in pain but still taking them, it scared the crap out of me. Flushed them all down the toilet. I am one of the lucky ones. Chemical dependency removes your ability to think straight and rationally. Removes your will power, and self control.
You really need to nip it in the bud before it becomes a problem. The only addictive problem I suffer from that challenges my self control is a Chinese buffet or all you can eat sushi deal. I'm lucky if I can walk out of the restaurant.
You really need to nip it in the bud before it becomes a problem. The only addictive problem I suffer from that challenges my self control is a Chinese buffet or all you can eat sushi deal. I'm lucky if I can walk out of the restaurant.
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