Will the majors cannibalize their WOs?
11-06-2016 | 09:45 AM
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Thanks. I was just wondering and couldn't find the answer anywhere.
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11-07-2016 | 08:31 AM
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Why does this topic keep coming up? The flow rates that are currently in place are around 1% per month. Envoy is flowing 1.6% this month and for the next few months then it will drop to 1.4% if the pilot group stays the same size.
AAG has many other tools to attract new hires to its regional carriers other than offering more money. The announcement of express jets 145s coming back to Envoy in DFW poached some junior pilots from them. I hate to see those guys leave. They are some good guys and always were great when I had to DH on them or vice versa. Everyone wishes MESA was out instead of express jet.
AAG has many other tools to attract new hires to its regional carriers other than offering more money. The announcement of express jets 145s coming back to Envoy in DFW poached some junior pilots from them. I hate to see those guys leave. They are some good guys and always were great when I had to DH on them or vice versa. Everyone wishes MESA was out instead of express jet.
11-07-2016 | 11:39 AM
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Genuine question here, and I honestly don't mean to come across as unsympathetic here (I've been at two companies that have closed the doors before so I know how it feels).
How would things realistically play out with the WO if the likes of AWAC and Mesa can no longer staff their aircraft? Would the WO's simply absorb those bases and flying and crew?
On one hand when it happened to me in the helicopter world I just did a patch change, kept my equivalent seniority and actually got a pay rise. The other time we weren't so lucky.
How would things realistically play out with the WO if the likes of AWAC and Mesa can no longer staff their aircraft? Would the WO's simply absorb those bases and flying and crew?
On one hand when it happened to me in the helicopter world I just did a patch change, kept my equivalent seniority and actually got a pay rise. The other time we weren't so lucky.
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11-07-2016 | 12:09 PM
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Genuine question here, and I honestly don't mean to come across as unsympathetic here (I've been at two companies that have closed the doors before so I know how it feels).
How would things realistically play out with the WO if the likes of AWAC and Mesa can no longer staff their aircraft? Would the WO's simply absorb those bases and flying and crew?
On one hand when it happened to me in the helicopter world I just did a patch change, kept my equivalent seniority and actually got a pay rise. The other time we weren't so lucky.
How would things realistically play out with the WO if the likes of AWAC and Mesa can no longer staff their aircraft? Would the WO's simply absorb those bases and flying and crew?
On one hand when it happened to me in the helicopter world I just did a patch change, kept my equivalent seniority and actually got a pay rise. The other time we weren't so lucky.
02-16-2017 | 11:50 AM
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To answer the initial question in this thread, I doubt that the airlines will purposefully cannibalize their own regionals. But, I think that they will cannibalize each others regionals.
Delta is hiring 120 pilots a month for the next 6+ years. Imagine the damage they would do to an AA WO if Delta were to hire a few hundred from them in a couple months. They could hire every LCA that the WO have in 2 months, or they could hire 25% of all PDT pilots. That would essentially cripple the regional feed of their competitor.
Delta is hiring 120 pilots a month for the next 6+ years. Imagine the damage they would do to an AA WO if Delta were to hire a few hundred from them in a couple months. They could hire every LCA that the WO have in 2 months, or they could hire 25% of all PDT pilots. That would essentially cripple the regional feed of their competitor.
02-16-2017 | 04:33 PM
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To answer the initial question in this thread, I doubt that the airlines will purposefully cannibalize their own regionals. But, I think that they will cannibalize each others regionals.
Delta is hiring 120 pilots a month for the next 6+ years. Imagine the damage they would do to an AA WO if Delta were to hire a few hundred from them in a couple months. They could hire every LCA that the WO have in 2 months, or they could hire 25% of all PDT pilots. That would essentially cripple the regional feed of their competitor.
Delta is hiring 120 pilots a month for the next 6+ years. Imagine the damage they would do to an AA WO if Delta were to hire a few hundred from them in a couple months. They could hire every LCA that the WO have in 2 months, or they could hire 25% of all PDT pilots. That would essentially cripple the regional feed of their competitor.
02-16-2017 | 04:40 PM
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We have since lost quite a few to Delta. In fact, we have sent more to Delta than AA in a couple of the last 3 months.
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