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Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 2258818)

What jobs will be left then? Sounds good, we can all just sit at home and watch TV. Except no one will have money to buy a TV.

The economics of the future is likely a resource based economy, not what we have today.

I think most people would have to agree that as time goes on and technology increases, at some point computers/robots/whatever will be doing ALL jobs everywhere.

You may say "not this job" or "not that job", but the truth is, as long as advancements are made, even at the slowest possible speed, that means the future will eventually be all computers and robots doing the work. Maybe that means 100 years or maybe that means a million years from now. Whatever the scale, so long as advancements continue to be made, the end result cannot be denied.

On a side note, other socialist countries are now talking about having a guaranteed monthly income to all people of their country, whether they participate in the work force or not.

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Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 2258980)

There is already a test group in California living off a basic monthly income for this very reason.

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Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 2258934)

Look at the drone loss rate, I agree this will happen but not soon. How long did it take the FAA to approve replacing one book in an aircraft with an iPad? Yeah, multiple that by 50, no one reading this thread will be alive when passenger airliners fly without pilots in the cockpit.

They are not drones, they still require a human on board, however, it is no longer a profession that requires more than two weeks of training. There is still a pilot up front, you would have to have one to prevent hacking. The aircraft would still require manual flight path programming, just the autopilot takes the aircraft from gate to gate, there is no longer any instrument procedures, or ATC, every plane goes direct to destination. Since machine vision can see and avoid wake turbulence, there is no longer separation requirements. The aircraft automatically time, and space each other.

If pilots go, whose job is safe? I've read articles about doctors and surgeons being replaced by robots. I would think by that logic computers should have already taken over law, math, engineering, sailing ships, etc. Instead we use the human element along with technology. Just my observation.

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Originally Posted by block30 (Post 2259074)

New jobs will have to be created, it's the same as the horse and buggy manufacturers from many years ago. Most future professions will be in art, sports, media, and human services. Manufacturing, and transportation are dead careers.

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Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2258845)

All of these problems are addressable, you can add human operators if systems are deferred. However, this is really not an issue, since if redundancy is lost, the aircraft would land at the nearest suitable airport. This is like saying we can't go below having 4 engines, because if one fails we can't make it to the destination. Is a two engine jet more costly, than a four engine jet, according to you it is. On top of that, a self driving car is ridiculously more complicated, than an autonomous aircraft. No matter how much you are in denial, this will happen, and soon.

Not worried about it in the slightest, especially for pax ops.

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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2259162)

What, you ashamed to admit how many years under your belt at DL? I mean it is obvious you have not been around DL long by how you handle yourself.

Ask an irrelevant question get an irrelevant answer.

It doesn't matter if I started yesterday or am C.E. Woodman posting from beyond. SkyWest will not get ever increasing sized airplanes to fly for other airlines. Either bet the farm on IndyAir or be happy within the confines of what unionized pilot groups allow your airline to fly.

And speaking of how one handles oneself, cue your insults, ad hominem attacks and zimmerman GIF's in 3...2...

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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2259339)

You know, you are actually right. I did ask a question that I already knew the answer to. You see, you have one of those attitudes that some of the "less senior" guys carry that the senior guys hate. I mean come on, you have racked up close to 8,000 posts on a forum board, when you could have spent that time working harder on becoming a better pilot and better representative of your company. You see, it is because of guys like you, companies have to have social media guidelines and policies.

I would guarantee that your management would not be impressed with how you represent your company on here. I guarantee a lot of your fellow ALPA pilots would not be impressed with how you represent yourself on here.

General Lee did it over on flightinfo, and you do it here. Delta has some seriously wonderful pilots and employee's, quit making the widget look stupid.

Thread closed.

Despite your implied stereotype, there just aren't many "senior" pilots chomping at the bit to sell bottom end scope. If anything, the top end is more of a carrot for the bottom of the list than it is for those already at the top. There are plenty of very senior "scope hawks" as well as junior pilots who just aren't watching it very closely ATM. The resistance to further scope sales is coming from all across the seniority spectrum. That's why I just don't see it happening for you.

The industry is now several post BK contracts into this, and the line is being held quite strongly.

While you attempt to act better than others, you constantly resort to immature personal and ad hominem attacks and even thinly veiled threats. That's really classy of you, and it shows your character, as well as highlights the hypocrisy of the high and mighty tone you try to exude on one hand while resorting to that on the other.

Its clear that you either work for or have a strong vested interest in SKYW. That's fine, and I've said numerous times that they run a good operation and I give them credit for that. But IMO you're just not going to get larger flying for DL or UAL because the unions won't allow it, and they'd have to for you to be able to. That flying is 100% owned and controlled by the union pilot PWA's so relief would be needed for your airline to get the permission to fly bigger planes.

Of course, we can (and do) disagree on the likelihood of that permission being granted. You think its a 100% given, and I don't think it will happen. But even if it does, it will be the choice of the mainline pilot groups to decide to permit it for you. That it simply out of your hands.

I really don't see why that would upset you so much. I get that you're a SKYW fan, and that's fine. They've always been one of the better run regionals out there and I've said as much repeatedly. You're just not going to get larger planes to fly for DL or UAL in my opinion. Sorry if that offends you.