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12-03-2016 | 07:04 AM
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And there are some distinct differences between the US maritime industry and the US aviation industry. The legacies are businesses first and foremost. They will change and adapt as they always have. They will not disappear. Make no mistake, this turn of events is bad for the profession, but it is by no means the end.
How much would your favorite legacy shrink if they dropped their international flying, and the domestic flying that feeds that international flying? The industry will still be there, but the premium jobs that you desire will be fewer.
Don't think that any Union wouldn't cave on JV scope if it were costing the company millions and risking the rest of their contract in BK, or that the company couldn't renege through force majeure.
12-03-2016 | 07:08 AM
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And there are some distinct differences between the US maritime industry and the US aviation industry. The legacies are businesses first and foremost. They will change and adapt as they always have. They will not disappear. Make no mistake, this turn of events is bad for the profession, but it is by no means the end.
Both industries are subject to basic economic forces. NAI will not be the only foreign flag carrier; more will come now that the precedent is set. And the public will love it. Soon, the 3 us flag carriers will not be able to compete with the multiple foreign flag carriers. If this is allowed to permenantly continue, (which it will be) over a long enough period of time the US flag international carriers will not be able to survive without their international revenue.
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12-03-2016 | 07:10 AM
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It's not just this one company, it's that they have paved a path to a new business model. No one knows how deep the rabbit hole will get.
How much would your favorite legacy shrink if they dropped their international flying, and the domestic flying that feeds that international flying?
How much would your favorite legacy shrink if they dropped their international flying, and the domestic flying that feeds that international flying?
12-03-2016 | 07:30 AM
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The change over will now happen on and increased timeline, and hopefully the legacys can keep up.
BA has already started it with service to SJC, AUS, and MSY
12-03-2016 | 07:56 AM
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I think they'll survive, it will just be with fewer jobs. The point to point transition into the secondary international markets is a larger threat to the status quo than saving $200 bucks and hour on the crew, IMO.
The change over will now happen on and increased timeline, and hopefully the legacys can keep up.
BA has already started it with service to SJC, AUS, and MSY
The change over will now happen on and increased timeline, and hopefully the legacys can keep up.
BA has already started it with service to SJC, AUS, and MSY
The big three can continue connecting pax for the time being but you can see were this is going.
12-03-2016 | 11:32 AM
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Wrong. This is what you see because it is what you want to believe. You will not retire at a legacy if you have more than 30 years left.
Guys, this happened to the maritime industry. All of the US cruise lines vanished. Why do you think this will be any different? The legacies cannot survive without their international revenue. That is just a fact of the business.
Guys, this happened to the maritime industry. All of the US cruise lines vanished. Why do you think this will be any different? The legacies cannot survive without their international revenue. That is just a fact of the business.
12-03-2016 | 12:40 PM
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Pilots are mostly republican, capitalist free market no government interventionist types right up until the time it hits them in the wallet, then they turn into whining little *****es who want daddy trump to intervene and save your job. most pilots I know, lack the courage of their convictions.
12-03-2016 | 12:44 PM
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So the pilot shortage is gone bc of this? No, this is definitely a step in the wrong direction but it's not the end all be all. Things will change down the road and certain types of fleets might shrink but everyone needs to take a chill pill.
12-03-2016 | 02:18 PM
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Thomas Cook had plans to fly nonstop into RNO form London Gatwick last winter for the ski season which attracts a lot of Europeans to the lake Tahoe area. This plan was scrapped after the local podunk Customs office told them it was looking at 3 hrs. to process the A330 passengers.
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