tattooguy21

Well, realistically I've never kept my own logs, except for semi-annual, and then only to compare them to the flight ops office and such. I've only had a, for better or worse, excel document and a waterproof notepad. Ha!

The plan was never to get out so the need to track hours beyond a 6 month period to make corrections was never a problem. As such, will it be a problem, going in with just this printed log book, since it's the only real logbook I've ever had?

60av8tor

I'm not sure I understand what you tracked - only your semi-annual totals...? I wouldn't worry about recreating your entire flying career if you don't already have a logbook. I had 3 logbooks - 1 was filled with nothing but my military RW flying, the second was filled with my ASEL/AMEL add-ons and part 91 flying, the third I had just started and captured all my commercial flying. Each log book got successively better/cleaner. I also went back and created my entire flight time (minus flight school - just used total time for this, and a swag at dual) by year into an excel spread sheet - beginning in about '01. This took a while, but was more than worth it now for the ease of tracking, filtering, adjusting, etc. I think most Army guys are pretty poor at tracking flight time. I basically only had D/N/NVG, PIC, H/W - no CC, etc. If I knew then what I know now, I would have tracked a bit more closely per all the categories and also added a few per what's tracked on an 8710 - NT CC PIC, etc. I would have taken more time to make it look nicer - all the same pen, single line cross outs for corrections, etc. My mil log book is kind of a mess - took it on 5 deployments, some entries are in pencil (yeah, pencil - I had a habit of using a big .9mm in my kneeboard and would sometimes use that for my logbook after a flight) - but I felt more comfortable keeping it as is, along with presenting my 759/759-1 (never showed a -12), rather than recreating a logbook over a 12-year period. Bottom line is that they glanced at my RW logbook/759 for about 2 seconds, but focused on my civilian FW book where I did the usual tabbing of checkrides, etc. Sometimes that was even glossed over. I interviewed at PSA last year prior to even doing my AMEL add-on and was offered a class date. I had to point out to the CA and HR rep that I did not yet have my Comm AMEL ticket - very thorough logbook review

Feel free to PM if you'd like. Lots of little things I can share over a phone call if you can't find someone local.

tattooguy21

I've basically used my 3 stick buddies from flight schools log books to recreate my training time at rucker, and from there on once I got to the unit my log book was a waterproof notepad i kept in my uniform (didn't matter if it got washed or not) or a picture of the kneeboard taken from my cell phone. I've been TDY for over 20 days now working on this, and I've finally got a legitimate digital logbook of ALL my flying created to include flight school, training at units, rl progression, etc.

My worry is, are the airlines going to say "what the heck is this?" when I present a office depot spiral bound, color printed logbook with my name on the cover. the insides will look like this....

No Lies

It should work. Just make sure that you also have the sign offs and other signatures somewhere in a book that you can show.

tattooguy21

Well, sign off's aren't really a thing for us being in the military. Certificates on the other hand, are. As such, my plan is to have my certificates from each training event attended available. That would take care of Flight school, 2nd aircraft quals, and graduation from the instructor course.

mbouwser23

Anyone had a problem with logten pro crashing on startup? get to the screen to fill in data and it instantly crashes everything is updates and current

Mr Rumbold

Those using LogTenPro..
I just got it and want to get my stuff into there.. I'm behind though, big time (!) (just a year- some CAs are 10+years unlogged and want out of YV.. not sure what they'll do.
Questions:
1. What do you log for instrument time? I can't possibly remember a year ago a 1.9 flight now much was instrument. It wants to default to the entire flight time but that wouldn't be accurate lol
2. Along the same lines.. I can't possibly remember every single approach. Of course I remember the first one.. runway 13 at DFW. And some stand out for whatever reason.. but most are a blur.
3. I'm assuming that A: the little crew-outfitters logs you jot things down in would be laughed out of the interview. And B:you can't contact your current airline for a print out of your records?
4. Back to my earlier statement- what are captains years behind but wanting to get out do? I can catch up a year somewhat quickly....

No Lies

The company that you work for should be able to produce records for you. AND if you wrote down any info in the little black book, just put it in your new log book.

B200 Hawk

IMO the biggest thing they care about when you hit the 121 world is TT and TPIC. I am sure the person reviewing you logbook will know what type of flying conditions you have been operating in during that time sans detailed approaches/tail numbers/etc. FAA only cares about currency, which your airline tracks.

PermaFo

A. 1 year isn't too bad.

1. & 2. IF every flight defaults your entire flight time to actual instrument time... Preferences -> Time -> under "Actual Inst" unclick "Auto fill from total time". If you can't remember what the actual time or the approach was... you might want to start "to remember" and fill in accordingly. Keep in mind that an IAP should have actual time and a logged landing. We can argue this, but that is my preference. You might want to start logging these in your L10 or your red book in the blank cells. Your end game here is to be able to fill in the "Number of IAPs within # months" accurately.

3. Start with whatever past months Flica still has... good luck getting anyone on the phone at YV (personal experience).

4. I used a 3rd party that ill pm you. They imported almost 8 years of my logbook entries, pointed out some errors, and I kept my written logs with me the entire time. There were some additional errors that were written in my logbook that imported into the software (garbage in, garbage out) but what can you do.