Which regionals are growing, or not?
01-07-2017 | 04:40 PM
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This industry runs on a terrible business model. "Growth" and "quick upgrades" for one pilot group typically come because another pilot group is suffering and stagnating.
GoJet benefitted to TransStates' detriment, Colgan planes went to Republic, then Republic lost those same Q400s, Comair got shut down as punishment, TransStates, Compass, PSA, and Piedmont grew with Eagle's planes while Eagle stagnated, SkyWest got Horizon's CRJs, etc.
Today's victim will be tomorrow's victor.
The worst part about the "regionals" is the terrible effect on pilots' careers by having scoped-out flying in the first place. All this flying should be mainline; unfortunately Pandora's box has been opened, and the "regionals" are here to stay, now that the "regionals" officially fly mainline equipment (E175).
GoJet benefitted to TransStates' detriment, Colgan planes went to Republic, then Republic lost those same Q400s, Comair got shut down as punishment, TransStates, Compass, PSA, and Piedmont grew with Eagle's planes while Eagle stagnated, SkyWest got Horizon's CRJs, etc.
Today's victim will be tomorrow's victor.
The worst part about the "regionals" is the terrible effect on pilots' careers by having scoped-out flying in the first place. All this flying should be mainline; unfortunately Pandora's box has been opened, and the "regionals" are here to stay, now that the "regionals" officially fly mainline equipment (E175).
01-07-2017 | 04:46 PM
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Sadly, the whipsaw is alive and well. As a group, pilots are their own worst enemy. As long as naive pilots continue to chase temporary "growth" and temporary "quick upgrades," the whipsaw will thrive.
01-07-2017 | 04:52 PM
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This industry runs on a terrible business model. "Growth" and "quick upgrades" for one pilot group typically come because another pilot group is suffering and stagnating.
GoJet benefitted to TransStates' detriment, Colgan planes went to Republic, then Republic lost those same Q400s, Comair got shut down as punishment, TransStates, Compass, PSA, and Piedmont grew with Eagle's planes while Eagle stagnated, SkyWest got Horizon's CRJs, etc.
Today's victim will be tomorrow's victor.
The worst part about the "regionals" is the terrible effect on pilots' careers by having scoped-out flying in the first place. All this flying should be mainline; unfortunately Pandora's box has been opened, and the "regionals" are here to stay, now that the "regionals" officially fly mainline equipment (E175).
GoJet benefitted to TransStates' detriment, Colgan planes went to Republic, then Republic lost those same Q400s, Comair got shut down as punishment, TransStates, Compass, PSA, and Piedmont grew with Eagle's planes while Eagle stagnated, SkyWest got Horizon's CRJs, etc.
Today's victim will be tomorrow's victor.
The worst part about the "regionals" is the terrible effect on pilots' careers by having scoped-out flying in the first place. All this flying should be mainline; unfortunately Pandora's box has been opened, and the "regionals" are here to stay, now that the "regionals" officially fly mainline equipment (E175).
01-07-2017 | 04:54 PM
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01-08-2017 | 08:03 AM
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Look at Compass. Once the absolute mecca with upgrade times under a year, highest pay (for like a month), crazy growth and guys who could hold lines right out of the school-house; you'd move 10% on the seniority list every month. Now, less than 2 years later, hiring freeze and lost 8% of their fleet. There is NO stability, except for MAYBE Skywest and Horizon. The only thing you should place bets on is attrition, and the house always gets their money on that bet.
01-08-2017 | 10:24 AM
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01-08-2017 | 10:35 AM
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Nothing.
In this supposed utopian society that is being discussed if you are at a carrier with a contract that is not as good as the carrier with the "best" contract you are supposed to never vote a better contact for yourself because they might shift flying from the more expensive carrier to your carrier as part of the deal. In short if you didn't select or weren't hired by the "best" carrier you are supposed to just lie in your own feces because otherwise you're the reason for whipsaw.... : Rolleyes:
In this supposed utopian society that is being discussed if you are at a carrier with a contract that is not as good as the carrier with the "best" contract you are supposed to never vote a better contact for yourself because they might shift flying from the more expensive carrier to your carrier as part of the deal. In short if you didn't select or weren't hired by the "best" carrier you are supposed to just lie in your own feces because otherwise you're the reason for whipsaw.... : Rolleyes:
01-08-2017 | 04:47 PM
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This industry runs on a terrible business model. "Growth" and "quick upgrades" for one pilot group typically come because another pilot group is suffering and stagnating.
GoJet benefitted to TransStates' detriment, Colgan planes went to Republic, then Republic lost those same Q400s, Comair got shut down as punishment, TransStates, Compass, PSA, and Piedmont grew with Eagle's planes while Eagle stagnated, SkyWest got Horizon's CRJs, etc.
Today's victim will be tomorrow's victor.
The worst part about the "regionals" is the terrible effect on pilots' careers by having scoped-out flying in the first place. All this flying should be mainline; unfortunately Pandora's box has been opened, and the "regionals" are here to stay, now that the "regionals" officially fly mainline equipment (E175).
GoJet benefitted to TransStates' detriment, Colgan planes went to Republic, then Republic lost those same Q400s, Comair got shut down as punishment, TransStates, Compass, PSA, and Piedmont grew with Eagle's planes while Eagle stagnated, SkyWest got Horizon's CRJs, etc.
Today's victim will be tomorrow's victor.
The worst part about the "regionals" is the terrible effect on pilots' careers by having scoped-out flying in the first place. All this flying should be mainline; unfortunately Pandora's box has been opened, and the "regionals" are here to stay, now that the "regionals" officially fly mainline equipment (E175).
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