Which regionals are growing, or not?
#52
Legacy pilot's have a scope clause. Bottom line, scope can't be violated unless AA wants to pay APA millions of dollars, they've done it in the past when TSA took some of Eagle's planes, it was an expensive mistake for AA and Eagle got the planes back while APA's winning lawsuit cost AA millions. I don't think AA will violate scope just so PSA big cheese can honor his word to a new hire class about growing to 2200 pilots. You got played if you honestly believe PSA can grow to 2200 pilots. With the pilot shortage and all, the big cheese might stretch the truth a bit to keep the fire going. AA is scoped out on RJs period. If an AA feeder grows, it's at the demise of anther.
To put it simply Company A flies between city pair A 5 times a day 7 days a week. Years after sales established the line at Company A and city pair A the line dwindles into half capacity and is no longer profitable. The flying is scaled back to two flights a day at city pair A and Company A. Marketing determines that there is a demand for city pair B on the other side of the country and writes a new contract for Company B to fly it.
Is simple supply and demand, not the evil empire of aviation management who's sole existence is to ruin your life.
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Its not as simplistic and nefarious as you make it sound.
To put it simply Company A flies between city pair A 5 times a day 7 days a week. Years after sales established the line at Company A and city pair A the line dwindles into half capacity and is no longer profitable. The flying is scaled back to two flights a day at city pair A and Company A. Marketing determines that there is a demand for city pair B on the other side of the country and writes a new contract for Company B to fly it.
Is simple supply and demand, not the evil empire of aviation management who's sole existence is to ruin your life.

To put it simply Company A flies between city pair A 5 times a day 7 days a week. Years after sales established the line at Company A and city pair A the line dwindles into half capacity and is no longer profitable. The flying is scaled back to two flights a day at city pair A and Company A. Marketing determines that there is a demand for city pair B on the other side of the country and writes a new contract for Company B to fly it.
Is simple supply and demand, not the evil empire of aviation management who's sole existence is to ruin your life.

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No, what is killing ExpressJet is SkyWest, Inc. Seniority movement, number-wise is there. I move up between 20 and 50 numbers per month. In the past 2 years, I've seen our IAH domicile lose about 100 lines, and aircraft leave to Transtates and Commutair. From what I've been told, we didn't even bother to attempt to renegotiate our DEN flying.
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No, what is killing ExpressJet is SkyWest, Inc. Seniority movement, number-wise is there. I move up between 20 and 50 numbers per month. In the past 2 years, I've seen our IAH domicile lose about 100 lines, and aircraft leave to Transtates and Commutair. From what I've been told, we didn't even bother to attempt to renegotiate our DEN flying.
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No, what is killing ExpressJet is SkyWest, Inc. Seniority movement, number-wise is there. I move up between 20 and 50 numbers per month. In the past 2 years, I've seen our IAH domicile lose about 100 lines, and aircraft leave to Transtates and Commutair. From what I've been told, we didn't even bother to attempt to renegotiate our DEN flying.
If you can't staff, the only thing left to do is shrink the fleet to right size to what you can staff. What's the point in trying to renegotiate contracts if you can't fly the airplanes. Heck, I'm sure UA, DL and AA are looking carefully into the different regional's ability to staff prior to signing contracts.
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What is your seniority? Upgrade time is still stratospheric. There is little to no significant seniority movement, i.e. of the type that really matters (not FOs jumping ship, especially new hires).
If you can't staff, the only thing left to do is shrink the fleet to right size to what you can staff. What's the point in trying to renegotiate contracts if you can't fly the airplanes. Heck, I'm sure UA, DL and AA are looking carefully into the different regional's ability to staff prior to signing contracts.
If you can't staff, the only thing left to do is shrink the fleet to right size to what you can staff. What's the point in trying to renegotiate contracts if you can't fly the airplanes. Heck, I'm sure UA, DL and AA are looking carefully into the different regional's ability to staff prior to signing contracts.
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