Blew your wad for a 5$ raise?
01-30-2018, 05:11 AM
#13
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Originally Posted by knewyork
I voted no but an envoy guy talking about someone else’s pay raise? Lmao! Good luck getting a raise with your full classes. The next pay raise you’ll see will be in 9 years when you flow.
01-30-2018, 05:33 AM
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I hope I don't come across sanctimonious or that I'm trying to lecture everybody, but the unlimited bonus structure is an absolutely awful thing for any pilot on property. Now if classes dip, they just throw an extra few thousand out and that fixes it.
One of the biggest things the EDV LOA had was a cap on the bonuses, which although it allows up to $20k, many regionals already are close to that. I believe only 9E and QX have a cap.
It's a dangerous game that takes power away from the pilots. Right now all that matters is filling classes; that is what caused the 9E bonus to happen first of all, and then inconsistent levels forced the swap into rates.
One of the biggest things the EDV LOA had was a cap on the bonuses, which although it allows up to $20k, many regionals already are close to that. I believe only 9E and QX have a cap.
It's a dangerous game that takes power away from the pilots. Right now all that matters is filling classes; that is what caused the 9E bonus to happen first of all, and then inconsistent levels forced the swap into rates.
01-30-2018, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Hot Richard
I hope I don't come across sanctimonious or that I'm trying to lecture everybody, but the unlimited bonus structure is an absolutely awful thing for any pilot on property. Now if classes dip, they just throw an extra few thousand out and that fixes it.
One of the biggest things the EDV LOA had was a cap on the bonuses, which although it allows up to $20k, many regionals already are close to that. I believe only 9E and QX have a cap.
It's a dangerous game that takes power away from the pilots. Right now all that matters is filling classes; that is what caused the 9E bonus to happen first of all, and then inconsistent levels forced the swap into rates.
One of the biggest things the EDV LOA had was a cap on the bonuses, which although it allows up to $20k, many regionals already are close to that. I believe only 9E and QX have a cap.
It's a dangerous game that takes power away from the pilots. Right now all that matters is filling classes; that is what caused the 9E bonus to happen first of all, and then inconsistent levels forced the swap into rates.
Now, it goes beyond even a few thousand dollars. They could very well fund someone's entire flight training and then have the new recruit sign a five-year-agreement to work it off. No more pilot shortage. No more leverage.
Brains....they have none.
01-30-2018, 07:00 AM
#17
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So let me get this straight. You will pay for your own college,
your kids college and now voted to pay for a strangers tuition?
I assume when Bernie becomes Prez you will have another kid
to pay for too. I cant believe 49% of you dont get the Flu.
your kids college and now voted to pay for a strangers tuition?
I assume when Bernie becomes Prez you will have another kid
to pay for too. I cant believe 49% of you dont get the Flu.
01-30-2018, 07:36 AM
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Blew your wad for a 5$ raise?
Originally Posted by msprj2
So let me get this straight. You will pay for your own college,
your kids college and now voted to pay for a strangers tuition?
I assume when Bernie becomes Prez you will have another kid
to pay for too. I cant believe 49% of you dont get the Flu.
your kids college and now voted to pay for a strangers tuition?
I assume when Bernie becomes Prez you will have another kid
to pay for too. I cant believe 49% of you dont get the Flu.
I don’t think they will get the “flu”, but many of us are leaving to better places. I believe this will increase attrition to ULCCs and lateral to other regionals for FOs.
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01-30-2018, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Hot Richard
I hope I don't come across sanctimonious or that I'm trying to lecture everybody, but the unlimited bonus structure is an absolutely awful thing for any pilot on property. Now if classes dip, they just throw an extra few thousand out and that fixes it.
One of the biggest things the EDV LOA had was a cap on the bonuses, which although it allows up to $20k, many regionals already are close to that. I believe only 9E and QX have a cap.
It's a dangerous game that takes power away from the pilots. Right now all that matters is filling classes; that is what caused the 9E bonus to happen first of all, and then inconsistent levels forced the swap into rates.
One of the biggest things the EDV LOA had was a cap on the bonuses, which although it allows up to $20k, many regionals already are close to that. I believe only 9E and QX have a cap.
It's a dangerous game that takes power away from the pilots. Right now all that matters is filling classes; that is what caused the 9E bonus to happen first of all, and then inconsistent levels forced the swap into rates.
YES! The unlimited bonuses is the main reason for my NO vote. The 51% will regret their decision in a few years, but it will be too late.
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01-30-2018, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
So let me get this straight. You will pay for your own college,
your kids college and now voted to pay for a strangers tuition?
I assume when Bernie becomes Prez you will have another kid
to pay for too. I cant believe 49% of you dont get the Flu.
your kids college and now voted to pay for a strangers tuition?
I assume when Bernie becomes Prez you will have another kid
to pay for too. I cant believe 49% of you dont get the Flu.
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