Blew your wad for a 5$ raise?
01-30-2018, 02:31 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Truth.
I’ll add PSA’s unprecedented declaration that seniority means everythi....I mean NOTHING.
All in a time of unimaginable industry gains.
But hey the shoe fits.
I’ll add PSA’s unprecedented declaration that seniority means everythi....I mean NOTHING.
All in a time of unimaginable industry gains.
But hey the shoe fits.
01-30-2018, 05:12 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by ORD170
What’s up with the PSA and Envoy pilots trying to talk down to Republic pilots? PSA certainly didn’t do the regional industry any favors in the recent past. The whole 3.O issue will just bring Republic down to the level of every other Regional. This LOA puts Republic in 2nd place for payrates. I voted NO, and this thing is a big disappointment for 49 percent of the pilot group.
As an Envoy guy, I appreciate any workgroup who goes out and negotiates themselves a new deal. Whether you’re happy with the outcome or not, I applaud your workgroup for at least getting something out there for you all to vote on. Our management has said that as long as we are filling classes then there is no reason to raise the pay. It’s a sad day when your hopes for a raise are in the hands of scabs who are taking your airplanes every month. PSA getting a raise is the only way Envoy will see one.
I thank the Republic group for helping move the industry forward.
02-01-2018, 06:46 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
Any PSA guy who talks about raises and bad contracts can go right back to CLT and fester in the filth that they created by undercutting their industry, stealing planes from another airline, and setting us all back.
As an Envoy guy, I appreciate any workgroup who goes out and negotiates themselves a new deal. Whether you’re happy with the outcome or not, I applaud your workgroup for at least getting something out there for you all to vote on. Our management has said that as long as we are filling classes then there is no reason to raise the pay. It’s a sad day when your hopes for a raise are in the hands of scabs who are taking your airplanes every month. PSA getting a raise is the only way Envoy will see one.
I thank the Republic group for helping move the industry forward.
As an Envoy guy, I appreciate any workgroup who goes out and negotiates themselves a new deal. Whether you’re happy with the outcome or not, I applaud your workgroup for at least getting something out there for you all to vote on. Our management has said that as long as we are filling classes then there is no reason to raise the pay. It’s a sad day when your hopes for a raise are in the hands of scabs who are taking your airplanes every month. PSA getting a raise is the only way Envoy will see one.
I thank the Republic group for helping move the industry forward.
02-01-2018, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
Any PSA guy who talks about raises and bad contracts can go right back to CLT and fester in the filth that they created by undercutting their industry, stealing planes from another airline, and setting us all back.
As an Envoy guy, I appreciate any workgroup who goes out and negotiates themselves a new deal. Whether you’re happy with the outcome or not, I applaud your workgroup for at least getting something out there for you all to vote on. Our management has said that as long as we are filling classes then there is no reason to raise the pay. It’s a sad day when your hopes for a raise are in the hands of scabs who are taking your airplanes every month. PSA getting a raise is the only way Envoy will see one.
I thank the Republic group for helping move the industry forward.
As an Envoy guy, I appreciate any workgroup who goes out and negotiates themselves a new deal. Whether you’re happy with the outcome or not, I applaud your workgroup for at least getting something out there for you all to vote on. Our management has said that as long as we are filling classes then there is no reason to raise the pay. It’s a sad day when your hopes for a raise are in the hands of scabs who are taking your airplanes every month. PSA getting a raise is the only way Envoy will see one.
I thank the Republic group for helping move the industry forward.
02-01-2018, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
I wouldn’t count on management coming to the table with much more than a $5/hr pay raise to the WO any time soon. The Republic YES vote disrupts the positive pattern bargaining since their endeavor like pay rates don’t kick in for another two years.
02-01-2018, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
I wouldn’t count on management coming to the table with much more than a $5/hr pay raise to the WO any time soon. The Republic YES vote disrupts the positive pattern bargaining since their endeavor like pay rates don’t kick in for another two years.
02-01-2018, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
The amount of raise is irrelevant in pattern bargaining. You don't ask for $5 because that's what another airline got. You shoot for what their rates are whether that's $5 or $50 higher.
02-01-2018, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
The amount of raise is irrelevant in pattern bargaining. You don't ask for $5 because that's what another airline got. You shoot for what their rates are whether that's $5 or $50 higher.
02-04-2018, 01:58 AM
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Geez, What's in the water over there? Your pilot group follows Bedford like the crazies in Waco followed Koresh lol. Back in 2001, we had just went back to work after striking for 89 days and that pilot group went into their 30 day cooling off period and wound up under cutting all the gains we made instead of demanding Comair +1%...ie, pattern bargaining. Just sayin...
02-04-2018, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by comair8904
Geez, What's in the water over there? Your pilot group follows Bedford like the crazies in Waco followed Koresh lol. Back in 2001, we had just went back to work after striking for 89 days and that pilot group went into their 30 day cooling off period and wound up under cutting all the gains we made instead of demanding Comair +1%...ie, pattern bargaining. Just sayin...
After this little event called 9/11.
After Jon Ornstein created alter-ego Freedom Air, leading Mesa pilots to sign an industry-lagging contract to scope Freedom out.
After Bedford attempted the same thing creating alter-ego Republic, which required CHQ pilots to prioritize scope over payrates.
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