Upgrade Times?
05-15-2018, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by midlifeflysis
Thanks guys for the info -- I will keep this thread going over the next couple of months. Curious to see if upgrade times will be coming down to the 2-2.5 year mark. That would make RAH very attractive overall for hiring.
07-25-2018, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ORD170
I doubt upgrades will not drop below 2 years without growth. Pretty sure attrition is higher on the FO side, and the company wants to keep captains around.
We were told today their goal is 500-600 pilots trained by the end of the year. My class is 52 people. They also told us dont be surprised if our upgrades are under 2 years
07-26-2018, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DragonFlyer14
What is the DOH of the most junior DCA captain?
Originally Posted by Arliss
How about even lower for those with previous 121?
07-26-2018, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 814Pilot
We were told today their goal is 500-600 pilots trained by the end of the year. My class is 52 people. They also told us dont be surprised if our upgrades are under 2 years
07-26-2018, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by njd1
That's consistent with what our class was told though our instructor kind of shook his head and said "I hope upgrade doesn't go below 2 years...as you really do need at least two winter seasons to fully appreciate the complexities of being a CA". Ain't that the truth.
07-27-2018, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by njd1
That's consistent with what our class was told though our instructor kind of shook his head and said "I hope upgrade doesn't go below 2 years...as you really do need at least two winter seasons to fully appreciate the complexities of being a CA". Ain't that the truth.
07-27-2018, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by KCaviator
The whole "I-hope-upgrades-don't-drop-because-lack-of-experience" must be a Republic thing. There's a ton of lifers here that seem to be extremely bitter that upgrades are 2.5 years and dropping. Multiple other airlines are upgrading right at 1,000 121 and no one seems to have a problem. I think some of these guys can't let go of the past and they don't want to see younger guys upgrading in half the time they did.
Things have changed so drastically in just a few short years where you once PAID for training and then signed a contract keeping you there, now you get paid huge bonus (not sure what the going rate is now) you sign no contract and the company pays you to get your ATP reqs. Pay was less than $20 less than a decade ago and now it’s $50 to start out. These guys have waited the better part of their life for a call to the Big Leauges and they know it will never come. And again, it’s not their fault between the age 65 Rule and 9/11 and the Recession.
All that being said, it’s not right for them to be upset, but it is understandable. If the Big Three get their way with Career Programs through training and the regionals direct to hire, all the FOs now will understand this all too well. Someone hired behind you with zero experience wanting to learn to fly will get to the majors faster than you, a person on property now.
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