DiveAndDrive

Hello, all. I was recently offered a position, and I am very excited to start. I want to prepare as much as I possibly can before hand. I know they will send a study guide, and I also know I need to get my nose into Sheppard Air and start memorizing studying the ATP written. But I’m also looking at other things to study since I’m basically a workaholic with no life.

I’m looking at “Embraer 170/190 Pilot Trainer”, produced by Faraz Sheikh, “Aerosim Checkride E190”, produced by Aerosim, or the “E-170/175 Study App” produced by JETPUBS. I was wondering if anyone has ever used any of these apps, and have any feedback on the accuracy or relevance of the information. I’m kind of liking the Aerosim app because it looks like you can go through the panels and click on various switches (albeit, they’re not interactive) and it’ll tell you what that switch does. I think if I pair that with the study guide, I’ll be in a good spot. But again, I don’t know how accurate or relevant the information would be. That’s why I’m soliciting y’alls input.

Also. Does anyone have a good ATP study app for the iPhone? I know Sheppard Air is the heavyweight champion of the world, but they don’t have an iPhone app; only an iPad app.

Thanks in advance, and I look forward to flying with you all!!!

TwinTandem

Don’t waste your time or money on anything else but Sheppard. You will be more than prepared. Seriously.

As far as the jet study I couldn’t say but the study guide you’ll get is fairly detailed with over 200 pages to review.

Varkguy

Get ahead during INDOC by memorizing most of the limitations chapter (and 100% of the bold/italic items) and the study guide. I just completed IOE so if you have any questions shoot me a PM.

JAHawk

Email the Hiring team and ask them for “The Study Guide.” It’s 269ish pages. If you read that and start note cards/memeorize the bold and italic items before training you are light years ahead of your class. I dare you to actually do just that and then find a hobby/life lol - heck you are going to have 12-16 days off a month soon so you are going to need a hobby.

DiveAndDrive

Lol I plan on using those 12-16 days off to finish my online degree.

TheWeatherman

The guy in my class who bought all those books ended up failing the Oral twice and getting booted. Do yourself a favor and don't study anything that isn't provided by the company.

- Get started now with Shepherd Air's ATP multi-engine prep. Everyone who used it in my class scored >90% on the written (I scored 98% ).
- You will get the study guide, the key things to learn that will get you ahead: Limitation memory items (Limitations section, bold items), your call outs, and your First Officer flows.
- Don't get too much in the weeds on the systems yet. The study guide doesn't go into the detail you need to understand them. You will have CBTs and class time to learn all about the systems. You don't want to learn something wrong the first time (Law of Primacy).

DiveAndDrive

First of all, thank you all for the information. I just received the study guide.... WOW.

I’m assuming the 50 pages (alone!!!) of “review questions”, plus memory items and limitations will be 98% of the oral?

MaxQ411

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Hi there, welcome aboard. I just finished my type rating Oral and am going through sims at Flightsafety and check ride after that.

During day 2 of indoc, you'll get your Ipad with all the required manuals (Standard Operating Procedures, Aircraft Operations Manual, Quick Reference Handbook etc.). They will give you a Jetpubs chart with the flight deck layout as well. The study guide you got is a very good prep document for the oral - so refer to it often.

The systems training is done on a software called Ethos and it's pretty comprehensive, content rich and plenty of pictures/schematics etc. Don't waste your money on all the apps etc. The E170/175 is a pretty logically laid out airplane so don't sweat it ..

If you need to study for your ATP Written, by all means get the Sheppard App. After systems, you'll do about six sessions on the EFPT/GFS - essentially a non motion simulator with a realistic set of controls .. plenty of opportunity to learn systems, procedures and callouts.

v1Brotate

How was the oral?

MaxQ411

No surprises if you study & prepare. Master the Study Guide given to you. Read the Quick Reference Card & Memory Items. Learn your limitations (speeds, weights, fuel capacity, altitudes).

Examiners can ask questions outside the study guide but as I understand they can only fail you if you don't know the material from the study guide. My examiner focused on first level knowledge (they're not expecting you to, proverbially speaking, build the plane) but focused on scenario based questions that forced critical thinking. Crazy as it sounds, I actually enjoyed the oral and learned a lot.