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Old 07-16-2019 | 09:05 AM
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The CFI's with flight benefits were probably Republic Ambassador's before they worked for LIFT. But if the ambassador's leave the school they recruit for then they're supposed to lose those benefits.
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Old 07-16-2019 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by lightspeed12
Really? I was really counting on having the benefits .. based on exchanging some messages with a current Lift student, my understanding was that the off-street CFIs don't get the flight benefits , but the ones that will eventually graduate from the cadet program will get the benefits.

Also, I was doing some math yesterday... Lift says that the students complete their program in 12 months and the CFIs in 18 months. This doesn't add up to me. Each student needs 300 hours (roughly) so that's 25 hours per month. The CFIs need 1200 hours in 18 months so that's 67 hours per month. Therefore there should be 67/25 = 2.7 students for each CFI in order to reach this advertised schedule... This ratio would make sense at a typical flight school, or at ATP, because there are many students that do not stay around and become CFIs. However, in the case of Lift, I imagine that most students will stay. So, what am I missing?
Maybe something will change and we’ll get flight benefits but as of now we don’t. The other LIFT employees all get flight bennies but the CFIs don’t.

I think what you’re missing is not everyone starts at the same point and not everyone progresses at the same speed. For instance I started in Feb with PVT and am about to wrap up commercial this week. Another guy I started with in Feb also had his PVT and is just now finishing IFR. Another one came in with only needing CFI and he’s now a CFI.
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Old 07-23-2019 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JayD
Maybe something will change and we’ll get flight benefits but as of now we don’t. The other LIFT employees all get flight bennies but the CFIs don’t.

I think what you’re missing is not everyone starts at the same point and not everyone progresses at the same speed. For instance I started in Feb with PVT and am about to wrap up commercial this week. Another guy I started with in Feb also had his PVT and is just now finishing IFR. Another one came in with only needing CFI and he’s now a CFI.
In that case, are students able to go through the training faster than the advertised 12 months? I've read that the training at LIFT is not too bad when spaced out over a year and students are somewhat encouraged to do a part time job on the side. I would rather speed things up and get it done in 9 months (like ATP) if possible.
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Old 07-23-2019 | 10:53 AM
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In that case, are students able to go through the training faster than the advertised 12 months? I've read that the training at LIFT is not too bad when spaced out over a year and students are somewhat encouraged to do a part time job on the side. I would rather speed things up and get it done in 9 months (like ATP) if possible.
Probably unlikely with IND weather
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Old 07-23-2019 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by stabapch
Probably unlikely with IND weather
*RUMOR* As LIFT grows they will move out of their facility (as it's leased through Signature at IND) and move somewhere that has good weather. The rumor I heard was out West. This comes from an employee at LIFT.
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Old 07-23-2019 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by stabapch
Probably unlikely with IND weather
Freaking IFR every day there
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Old 07-23-2019 | 02:07 PM
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And you'll never get the wind low enough to solo out west. The grass is not always greener. I had more wx cancellations in Florida during the Spring then I did way up north all Winter.
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Old 07-23-2019 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman
And you'll never get the wind low enough to solo out west. The grass is not always greener. I had more wx cancellations in Florida during the Spring then I did way up north all Winter.
As a south Florida CFI, I can vouch for this. CFI was a pain to finish
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Old 07-24-2019 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by lightspeed12
In that case, are students able to go through the training faster than the advertised 12 months? I've read that the training at LIFT is not too bad when spaced out over a year and students are somewhat encouraged to do a part time job on the side. I would rather speed things up and get it done in 9 months (like ATP) if possible.
Yes, you can absolutely get it done faster but I focused entirely on LIFT and didn’t work. You might be able to make something like Uber/Lyft work if you needed a side job. I was originally scheduled to be done at the end of December but now I should start instructing towards the beginning of September. I won’t be done with the multi or have my CFII at that point but I’ll do both of those while instructing. Right now they are having us do the multi right before going to RPA.

I made up most of the time during commercial since there is a lot of solo time. They advertise six months and I ended up doing it in three. They also just started an open time board so you can pick up additional flying/ground with a different instructor too. That would allow PVT and IRA to go faster.
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Old 10-18-2019 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JayD
Yes, you can absolutely get it done faster but I focused entirely on LIFT and didn’t work. You might be able to make something like Uber/Lyft work if you needed a side job. I was originally scheduled to be done at the end of December but now I should start instructing towards the beginning of September. I won’t be done with the multi or have my CFII at that point but I’ll do both of those while instructing. Right now they are having us do the multi right before going to RPA.

I made up most of the time during commercial since there is a lot of solo time. They advertise six months and I ended up doing it in three. They also just started an open time board so you can pick up additional flying/ground with a different instructor too. That would allow PVT and IRA to go faster.
Thanks for all the info . I'm starting with 0 hours in December ... Do you think that's a bad idea given the weather ? Also, I know that their website says it takes 2 months to get the PPL... Is that true or should I expect it to take longer ?
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