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Viking6 04-29-2019 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by ItnStln (Post 2811014)
Will you post a link for that podcast?

The FO I was flying with had it, but I believe it was pilot-to-pilot podcast. I’m sure the company has a link somewhere to it as well.

JayD 04-29-2019 07:03 PM

I think this is the link for it:

https://pilottopilot.libsyn.com/lift-academy

stabapch 04-30-2019 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by Viking6 (Post 2811013)
Listen to the podcast Lift management did, because it is enlightening. Of course Republic management will use Lift as leverage during our negotiations.

That might be the big news for the year. Republic cancels 100 E-jet order and Lift takes on 50 brand new Diamond aircraft...

Viking6 04-30-2019 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by stabapch (Post 2811367)
That might be the big news for the year. Republic cancels 100 E-jet order and Lift takes on 50 brand new Diamond aircraft...

Anything could happens here, but I suspect we will have a update soon concerning growth. Doesn’t mean it’s going to be good news, but it will provide needed stability for our pilots.

KCaviator 04-30-2019 08:53 AM

Based on today’s PDU, the company has ZERO desire to begin negotiations for a new CBA.

If we don’t see any growth, this is bad news for two things:

1) CBA negotiations, and
2) Off-the-street new hires (i.e. non-LIFT)

I would be surprised if we see a new CBA before 2021. The NC seemed like a weak group when it was announced, so I wouldn’t expect much positive news coming any time soon.

Viking6 04-30-2019 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by KCaviator (Post 2811563)
Based on today’s PDU, the company has ZERO desire to begin negotiations for a new CBA.

If we don’t see any growth, this is bad news for two things:

1) CBA negotiations, and
2) Off-the-street new hires (i.e. non-LIFT)

I would be surprised if we see a new CBA before 2021. The NC seemed like a weak group when it was announced, so I wouldn’t expect much positive news coming any time soon.

Not surprised the company is slowing down negotiations. They’re about making money, and getting a new pilot CBA quickly will not help the company. A lot can happen in 2 years, but I would be very surprised if we got a new CBA before 2021. I guess they meet again in June.

TJBrass 04-30-2019 10:44 AM

You'll be in renegotiations before 2021. When DL/UA/AA recoup the money the REV fleeced them out of in the BK, and sell their interests to TPG, or Indigo or some other similar outfit, you'll be back at the table.

Rahlifer 04-30-2019 01:40 PM

I still don’t see how we can possibly take on another 100 airplanes. All the majors are completely at their respective scope limits. We can’t legally operate them anywhere and Odin help us if we try another branded flying adventure.

Viking6 04-30-2019 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Rahlifer (Post 2811778)
I still don’t see how we can possibly take on another 100 airplanes. All the majors are completely at their respective scope limits. We can’t legally operate them anywhere and Odin help us if we try another branded flying adventure.

Most will be replacements, but probably a few 175SCs. I know many new hires expect growth, but it may not happen.

Hopefully BB learned from his last mistake with branded flying. I don’t think the board would allow branded flying.

JayD 04-30-2019 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Rahlifer (Post 2811778)
I still don’t see how we can possibly take on another 100 airplanes. All the majors are completely at their respective scope limits. We can’t legally operate them anywhere and Odin help us if we try another branded flying adventure.

I’m not seeing it either but the latest thought is that it may be possible to convert the E170s to 65 seats for AA. Then those could be replaced by 175SCs I guess. That’s 60 aircraft so we’ll see what happens. Management also seems to think scope will be relaxed at some point.

E170s to 65 seats.. sure ok that might work but I really hope no one caves on scope.


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