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05Duramax 04-30-2019 05:58 PM

Anybody think BB might be gambling? Republic is doing a good amount of flying of other regionals that can’t meet their commitments due to lack of crews; couple that with a lot of Pilot and FA hiring, and the ERJ order. Maybe he’s hoping he will have the people and equipment in place to lure codeshares to give YX more flying as the others (guessing its XJT and Mesa) struggle to fill classes.

Just a theory.

KCaviator 05-01-2019 07:34 AM

BB likes to talk a big game, and rarely what he says ever comes to fruition. He said we’ll be going after other regionals’ flying. None of that has happened. I’ve doubted the growth talk for awhile, along with the massive aircraft order.

In a video the company posted today, BB said “...as exciting as it is ordering 100 Ejets, it’s even more exciting training future pilots.” This was in reference to LIFT. You can clearly see where the company priority is...

Rahlifer 05-01-2019 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by 05Duramax (Post 2811964)
Anybody think BB might be gambling? Republic is doing a good amount of flying of other regionals that can’t meet their commitments due to lack of crews; couple that with a lot of Pilot and FA hiring, and the ERJ order. Maybe he’s hoping he will have the people and equipment in place to lure codeshares to give YX more flying as the others (guessing its XJT and Mesa) struggle to fill classes.

Just a theory.

My personal theory is that he was betting on scope to either be relaxed or to go away thereby allowing unlimited rjs. It’s similar to the gamble that Mitsubishi and Embraer took when they developed their respective mega rjs.

Viking6 05-01-2019 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by 05Duramax (Post 2811964)
Anybody think BB might be gambling? Republic is doing a good amount of flying of other regionals that can’t meet their commitments due to lack of crews; couple that with a lot of Pilot and FA hiring, and the ERJ order. Maybe he’s hoping he will have the people and equipment in place to lure codeshares to give YX more flying as the others (guessing its XJT and Mesa) struggle to fill classes.

Just a theory.

I don’t think that was the initial plan, but it’s certainly the “new” plan. I think the original plan was scope relieve from United, which was never going to happen in this environment. Also he probably had no idea United would essentially buy ExpressJet. He’s just reacting to mainline at this point.

JayD 05-01-2019 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Rahlifer (Post 2812231)
My personal theory is that he was betting on scope to either be relaxed or to go away thereby allowing unlimited rjs. It’s similar to the gamble that Mitsubishi and Embraer took when they developed their respective mega rjs.

There’s no doubt in my mind after the most recent HQ visit this is part of the puzzle. Allman specifically addressed the 100 plane order and mainline scope already being maxed without us asking. The three factors were:

1- E170s to 65 seats for AA.
2- Taking flying at the expense of another regional (he couldn’t say specifically but said we’ll hear something later this summer/fall.)
3- Scope relief in some way or another.

Rahlifer 05-02-2019 09:35 AM

I just had a disturbing thought. Has Republic become the new Comair? Twenty years ago, Comair charged a $325 fee for an “interview”. If you passed the credit check, you were then offered a job for another $16,000 training fee. The tag line in all their adverts boasted about being owned by Delta made them the superior flight school in the galaxy.

There do seem to be many parallels cropping up. Or maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight again.

TJBrass 05-02-2019 09:43 AM

What is equally disturbing is that, when his Partners/Owners have flying to assign, it's going to a.) chronically understaffed, b.) notoriously underperforming, c.) mx challenged and cancellation prone airlines, (and of course SKYW) It's not going to RJET.

ninerdriver 05-02-2019 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Rahlifer (Post 2812938)
I just had a disturbing thought. Has Republic become the new Comair? Twenty years ago, Comair charged a $325 fee for an “interview”. If you passed the credit check, you were then offered a job for another $16,000 training fee. The tag line in all their adverts boasted about being owned by Delta made them the superior flight school in the galaxy.

There do seem to be many parallels cropping up. Or maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight again.

Man, I've been saying Brickyard is going to Comair in the next five years or so for a while now.

- Airline-owned
- Expensive
- Inflexible

It's not a good combo.

OffAtTango 05-02-2019 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2813073)
Man, I've been saying Brickyard is going to Comair in the next five years or so for a while now.

- Airline-owned
- Expensive
- Inflexible

It's not a good combo.

Don't you work for Endeavor:confused:

Viking6 05-02-2019 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2813073)
Man, I've been saying Brickyard is going to Comair in the next five years or so for a while now.

- Airline-owned
- Expensive
- Inflexible

It's not a good combo.

We’re not airline owned! DL/UA/AA own a percentage, but none have majority ownership. Also GE/EMB I believe. The sky isn’t falling, but I would be concerned about long term viability. Guess it depends if mainline wants to keep us around to whipsaw the WOs.


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