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ninerdriver 05-02-2019 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by OffAtTango (Post 2813090)
Don't you work for Endeavor:confused:

Yep...


Originally Posted by Viking6 (Post 2813122)
We’re not airline owned! DL/UA/AA own a percentage, but none have majority ownership. Also GE/EMB I believe. The sky isn’t falling, but I would be concerned about long term viability. Guess it depends if mainline wants to keep us around to whipsaw the WOs.

But the three combined own a majority. If they all decide that Republic's assets are worth more than the airline itself and can figure out a way to split them, then that'll be that. I don't think it'll be short term, either, but I think it'll happen eventually.

TheWeatherman 05-02-2019 02:33 PM

An Endeavor pilot telling Republic that they are expensive. Now that is rich:D

Viking6 05-02-2019 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 2813143)
An Endeavor pilot telling Republic that they are expensive. Now that is rich:D


Right! Comair anyone!?

Meow1215 05-03-2019 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Viking6 (Post 2813163)
Right! Comair anyone!?

Comair had autonomy, they let it go to their heads and they paid the price through insolvency. Republic has autonomy, how is it going? Ask BB.

Endeavor does not have autonomy, the CEO of DCI is also our CEO - we do nothing without permission, good or bad. Doesn’t make us safer, it does mean that DAL has an interest in us remaining operational - until they don’t.

YX arguably could recover and run without DAL, at 9E it would be turning off our life support. We are a WO paper airline. It’s two very different business plans.

That being said I don’t see YX going the way of Comair in the near future. But I also don’t see YX growing - they will stay big enough to whipsaw the other regionals. YX serves three masters, and those three masters don’t like sharing their toys.

Viking6 05-03-2019 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2813536)
Comair had autonomy, they let it go to their heads and they paid the price through insolvency. Republic has autonomy, how is it going? Ask BB.

Endeavor does not have autonomy, the CEO of DCI is also our CEO - we do nothing without permission, good or bad. Doesn’t make us safer, it does mean that DAL has an interest in us remaining operational - until they don’t.

YX arguably could recover and run without DAL, at 9E it would be turning off our life support. We are a WO paper airline. It’s two very different business plans.

That being said I don’t see YX going the way of Comair in the near future. But I also don’t see YX growing - they will stay big enough to whipsaw the other regionals. YX serves three masters, and those three masters don’t like sharing their toys.

Yeah I agree! The comair reference was in regards to Endeavor.

stabapch 05-04-2019 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2813073)
Man, I've been saying Brickyard is going to Comair in the next five years or so for a while now.

- Airline-owned
- Expensive
- Inflexible

It's not a good combo.

Man, I've been saying [ENDEAVOR] is going to Comair in the next five years or so for a while now.

- Airline-owned
- Expensive
- Inflexible

It's not a good combo.


Corrected it for ya... Read it slowly it’ll make more sense...

Meow1215 05-04-2019 02:56 AM


Originally Posted by stabapch (Post 2813989)
Man, I've been saying [ENDEAVOR] is going to Comair in the next five years or so for a while now.

- Airline-owned
- Expensive
- Inflexible

It's not a good combo.


Corrected it for ya... Read it slowly it’ll make more sense...

Read above post... slowly it will make more sense. Endeavor is also hardly in a Comair position. That whole autonomy thing played it pretty big role.

flydiamond 05-04-2019 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2814003)
Read above post... slowly it will make more sense. Endeavor is also hardly in a Comair position. That whole autonomy thing played it pretty big role.

Also, who says Endeavor is the most expensive DCI carrier? There’s a ton more to running an airline than paying the pilots.

Meow1215 05-04-2019 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by flydiamond (Post 2814012)
Also, who says Endeavor is the most expensive DCI carrier? There’s a ton more to running an airline than paying the pilots.

They are not the most expensive, from an accounting standpoint that is. All our support functions are outsourced to existing Delta infrastructure. Now if we get our own IT department, separate benefits from Delta, an actual HR department. Then you can start worrying.

fortyeight 05-04-2019 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by TJBrass (Post 2812946)
What is equally disturbing is that, when his Partners/Owners have flying to assign, it's going to a.) chronically understaffed, b.) notoriously underperforming, c.) mx challenged and cancellation prone airlines, (and of course SKYW) It's not going to RJET.

Not even new flying. Existing flying as well. ORD is a shell of what it once was due to Skywest and Envoy taking all of the Delta and American flying. Just a few years ago Republic was one of, if not the largest regional carriers in Chicago. Now we’re down to 34 daily departures. Skywest continues to grow in LGA and Republic can’t get west of the freaking Mississippi. I honestly don’t remember the last time I flew to a state that even borders the Mississippi.

Republic is just too expensive. That’s all there is to it. If the codeshare partners really cared about performance and reliability it would be Republic coast to coast, not Skywest. It’s all about money and that’s been made 100% clear this last year with Skywest’s presence only growing on the east. Only a matter of time until they get their hands on some American 170’s... and as soon as that happens well, good luck Republic lol. Hope you had fun being the BEST.

If anyone thinks those 100 170’s are actually coming for growth opportunities I’ve got a bridge for sale.

Republic is a joke. If I were a pilot trying to decide which regional to spend the next 5 years at I’d stay as far away from RPA as possible.


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