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Old 05-02-2019 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OffAtTango
Don't you work for Endeavor
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Originally Posted by Viking6
We’re not airline owned! DL/UA/AA own a percentage, but none have majority ownership. Also GE/EMB I believe. The sky isn’t falling, but I would be concerned about long term viability. Guess it depends if mainline wants to keep us around to whipsaw the WOs.
But the three combined own a majority. If they all decide that Republic's assets are worth more than the airline itself and can figure out a way to split them, then that'll be that. I don't think it'll be short term, either, but I think it'll happen eventually.
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Old 05-02-2019 | 02:33 PM
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An Endeavor pilot telling Republic that they are expensive. Now that is rich
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Old 05-02-2019 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman
An Endeavor pilot telling Republic that they are expensive. Now that is rich

Right! Comair anyone!?
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Old 05-03-2019 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Viking6
Right! Comair anyone!?
Comair had autonomy, they let it go to their heads and they paid the price through insolvency. Republic has autonomy, how is it going? Ask BB.

Endeavor does not have autonomy, the CEO of DCI is also our CEO - we do nothing without permission, good or bad. Doesn’t make us safer, it does mean that DAL has an interest in us remaining operational - until they don’t.

YX arguably could recover and run without DAL, at 9E it would be turning off our life support. We are a WO paper airline. It’s two very different business plans.

That being said I don’t see YX going the way of Comair in the near future. But I also don’t see YX growing - they will stay big enough to whipsaw the other regionals. YX serves three masters, and those three masters don’t like sharing their toys.
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Old 05-03-2019 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Meow1215
Comair had autonomy, they let it go to their heads and they paid the price through insolvency. Republic has autonomy, how is it going? Ask BB.

Endeavor does not have autonomy, the CEO of DCI is also our CEO - we do nothing without permission, good or bad. Doesn’t make us safer, it does mean that DAL has an interest in us remaining operational - until they don’t.

YX arguably could recover and run without DAL, at 9E it would be turning off our life support. We are a WO paper airline. It’s two very different business plans.

That being said I don’t see YX going the way of Comair in the near future. But I also don’t see YX growing - they will stay big enough to whipsaw the other regionals. YX serves three masters, and those three masters don’t like sharing their toys.
Yeah I agree! The comair reference was in regards to Endeavor.
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Old 05-04-2019 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
Man, I've been saying Brickyard is going to Comair in the next five years or so for a while now.

- Airline-owned
- Expensive
- Inflexible

It's not a good combo.
Man, I've been saying [ENDEAVOR] is going to Comair in the next five years or so for a while now.

- Airline-owned
- Expensive
- Inflexible

It's not a good combo.


Corrected it for ya... Read it slowly it’ll make more sense...
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Old 05-04-2019 | 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by stabapch
Man, I've been saying [ENDEAVOR] is going to Comair in the next five years or so for a while now.

- Airline-owned
- Expensive
- Inflexible

It's not a good combo.


Corrected it for ya... Read it slowly it’ll make more sense...
Read above post... slowly it will make more sense. Endeavor is also hardly in a Comair position. That whole autonomy thing played it pretty big role.
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Old 05-04-2019 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Meow1215
Read above post... slowly it will make more sense. Endeavor is also hardly in a Comair position. That whole autonomy thing played it pretty big role.
Also, who says Endeavor is the most expensive DCI carrier? There’s a ton more to running an airline than paying the pilots.
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Old 05-04-2019 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by flydiamond
Also, who says Endeavor is the most expensive DCI carrier? There’s a ton more to running an airline than paying the pilots.
They are not the most expensive, from an accounting standpoint that is. All our support functions are outsourced to existing Delta infrastructure. Now if we get our own IT department, separate benefits from Delta, an actual HR department. Then you can start worrying.
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Old 05-04-2019 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TJBrass
What is equally disturbing is that, when his Partners/Owners have flying to assign, it's going to a.) chronically understaffed, b.) notoriously underperforming, c.) mx challenged and cancellation prone airlines, (and of course SKYW) It's not going to RJET.
Not even new flying. Existing flying as well. ORD is a shell of what it once was due to Skywest and Envoy taking all of the Delta and American flying. Just a few years ago Republic was one of, if not the largest regional carriers in Chicago. Now we’re down to 34 daily departures. Skywest continues to grow in LGA and Republic can’t get west of the freaking Mississippi. I honestly don’t remember the last time I flew to a state that even borders the Mississippi.

Republic is just too expensive. That’s all there is to it. If the codeshare partners really cared about performance and reliability it would be Republic coast to coast, not Skywest. It’s all about money and that’s been made 100% clear this last year with Skywest’s presence only growing on the east. Only a matter of time until they get their hands on some American 170’s... and as soon as that happens well, good luck Republic lol. Hope you had fun being the BEST.

If anyone thinks those 100 170’s are actually coming for growth opportunities I’ve got a bridge for sale.

Republic is a joke. If I were a pilot trying to decide which regional to spend the next 5 years at I’d stay as far away from RPA as possible.
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